anyone got any opinion on the dalesway?
any idea if a record exists and what conditions apply?
anybody done it in one go?
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anyone got any opinion on the dalesway?
any idea if a record exists and what conditions apply?
anybody done it in one go?
Ilkley Harriers did it as a relay earlier this year - http://www.ilkleyharriers.org.uk/new.../dalesway.html
Don't know of a record as such though there probably is.
It's certainly been done in one go loads of times. Do not know the recod time but Dennis Beresford rings a bell. It will be well under 24 hours. Something like 16-17 hours would not surprise me!
Dennis Beresford ran it in 13:46 in August 1983 according to Stud Marks on the Summits, p121.
I stand to be corrected, I do not have any paperwork to hand, but a vague memory that somebody went faster than Dennis, but Dennis then re-took the record.???
Was this on the shorter route? It's got several extensions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rombald
Bob. there was talk of doing this again, but doing a double, Ilkley - Bowness -Ilkley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob
Suspect we have the numbers if we could stimulate enough interest.
And of course loonies like you and me can double or treble up. :D
Alison and I did 4 sections each this year (by choice) logging well over 20 miles a piece. All part of the training. :D
Great fun too for any other club looking for a not too testing relay event. We went for the "inclusive" approach rather than trying to break any records. You can build in some very short legs for the non-fell runners (Buckden to Kettlewell was one) but leave some harder ones for the hard men and women (Dent to close to Ribblehead).
I'm sure I could locate the leg lay out if anyone was interested.
Morgan
P.S. The earlier link from Bob's post does give brief details of the legs that were run.
I'd torn the cartilege in my knee when this was done so I'd have been there otherwise - honest!
Not sure of the exact route that Dennis took, but SMOTS refers to it as "the 81-mile Dales Way from Ilkley to Bowness".Quote:
Originally Posted by socks
Not sure how many of the "options" were available when the record was set.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rombald
i remember racing against dennis in the 80s,i was racing every week and so was he.
i would be intrested to know what criteria is in place,for example support and feeding.
all in one day seems achieveable,subject to a good recce.
i picked up a route guide by gemmel and speakman with link paths and associated walks which seems quite good.
i once came across a chap on hadrians wall section of the pennine way,i ran along with him but only at a distance as he said he was attempting a solo attempt which meant no assistance!he then proceeded to tell me that he had not spoken to his wife for 3 days and he thought she might be worried(this was before mobile phones)
i dont think i want to take it to that extreme,although not speaking to the wife for 3 days,hmmm there is a thought.
Dylan, I'd be surprised if there is anything down by way of rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by dylan
Mountain Man, have you heard of anything?
Make your own, let us know what criteria you set yourself, and let us know how you get on. :D
For the last 4years I've been saying I'm going to catch the #74 bus up to Buckden and have a steady run back home back to Addingham - maybe next year ;)
going to start recce in new year then decide if its a there and back,or just one way.the link routes from either leeds or shipley also look feasible.
thanks for the feed back,much appreciated
Resurrecting an old thread that came up when i searched ...
As far as i can see, in 1989 Mike Hartley set a record for the Dales Way (Bowness-Ilkey or vice versa) with a time of 13:34 which was then bettered later that year by Denis Beresford in 12 hours 44. http://www.claytonlemoors.org.uk/wp-...etter-2014.pdf
Ben
Dennis Beresford set the original record about '83 - '84 ..... I think that it was sub 14 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by benshep
Mike Hartley went in the Bowness to Ilkley direction when he ran his 13:34 in March 1989. There is a report of it in The Fell Runner, Jun 1989, p32, under the title "What a Buster" (https://fellrunner.org.uk/fellrunner/1989_June.pdf).
Mike was a great runner and could undoubtedly have gone much faster if the Dales Way had been his main aim but it was mostly a training run for his Pennine Way attempt and he lost a lot of time with navigation and other issues.
Dennis Beresford was good as well of course and he easily beat Mike's Dales Way time only a couple of months later (14 May 1989), regaining the record with his 12:44. I don't know much more about that run but as far as I know, it is still the fastest time for the Dales Way. Dennis also set a record for a triple round of the Three Peaks (13:16 in 1978).
Thanks Rombald - great info. It makes you realise how we now have this vast amount of information nowadays - both raw data and narrative reports/blogs - probably too much if you consider the quality of some of the information put out there, whereas in those days it was a combination of word of mouth, results and the occasional report in a club magazine or the FRA magazine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rombald
A triple round of the three peaks?! Impressive, but I can't say I'm tempted!
See Rombald's post #4 on this thread:- https://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/show...?5932-dalesway
I can remember a write up of this achievement in an A5 edition of the FRM - think it was January 1984
IIRC Dennis only took on liquids from Ilkley to Dent and suffered for it.
Thanks. Yes, I was aware of his record from 1983/4. As I understand it, in 1989 Mike Hartley lowered Denis’s time and then Denis promptly reclaimed it at 12 hours 44. I haven’t found anything to suggest anyone has gone quicker; at least if they have done they have kept it under their hat.Quote:
Originally Posted by wheezing donkey
There is a one off race down the DalesWay on 17/18th August this year, to celebrate the 50th Anniversary of it. I'm in it and quite a few other fell runners. I saw Mr Punk Panther who's organising it and he says there are still places available. Bus from Ilkley to Boness for the start.
As Derby Tup said in 2008
"For the last 4years I've been saying I'm going to catch the #74 bus up to Buckden and have a steady run back home back to Addingham - maybe next year"
I'm going to do that tomorrow as training. This will probably be the bit we do in the dark.
Matt, we finally got round to doing the 74 bus last summer training for the Afoot in Two Dales LDWA event, albeit walking. The Dales Way is fantastic. Hope you and others doing it have a good race
The Dalesway always seems a bit flat and ......
There is a newish Dales Highway Route. Looks much more Fell runnerish!
https://www.daleshighway.co.uk/index.htm
Yes, it was flatish, but lovely scenery all the same. The bit after Kettlewell where you go onto the valley side is great, with views down to Kilnsey and then there is Barden moor in front. Bit of a slow journey by bus from Otley to Buckden, but saves the planet. Good feeding on the way, Full English in Kettlewell and cakes at the Cavendish pavillion. Glad to get to Ilkley in time for a sly pint before being collected by my wife. A good day out.
That higher level section south of Kettlewell has long been a favourite of mine too
A grand day out, and by day I mean 23 1/2 hours for me. Good to meet Ben Shep. The killer cow herd on Grassington moor were interesting to meet running solo in the dark.
Well done Matt
Well done Matt, glad you got it finished, and good to meet you. Tough old run. Those cows with their reflective eyes were scary. If i hadn't already been moving at walking pace i would definitely have slowed to a walk to get around or through that herd! 17 hours 45 for me. Tougher than i expected - I think it was the sodden underfoot conditions that nearly did for me. Thank goodness for the medics at Gearstones who repaired and taped up my feet for me, and thank goodness I had dry socks for some (temporary) relief! I'm just now getting to the stage where I'm saying I enjoyed it (I wasn't thinking that at the time).Quote:
Originally Posted by MattPo