I see the arsenal lad got away with it as usual. If Rooney had dived and pushed the ball around the post...5 game ban.
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I see the arsenal lad got away with it as usual. If Rooney had dived and pushed the ball around the post...5 game ban.
I never used to expect us to beat them in the past (it was a bonus if we did), so I never got nervous, but now we are streets ahead of them, I expect us to win, which makes me nervous. It's a complete turnaround from years gone by when they bullied us, because we are top dogs now and fear of defeat makes me nervous. :confused:
2 : 1 to Utd. Tick tock . . .
All the pain and pleasure of being a football fan. 1 down, playing rubbish, 2 superb goals, in the lead, 90th minute and an OG to draw 2-2. Looks like could easily be out of Champions League. Absolutely gutted, tonking at the weekend, half expected, draw tonight even more depressing. At times I hate being an Arsenal fan, roll on the weekend....... oh bugger, it's Man City next.
Great 3-0 win tonight oh and I understand there was one at Old Trafford as well :rolleyes:
Moyes should go back to his old club and see how they are playing...a bit like United last season :rolleyes:
Agent Moyes strikes again!
He's doing a tremendous job, long may it continue! :cool:
United fans turning on Fergie are on absolute disgrace.
All this about Rock of Gibralter.. had he let them walk all over him he'd have had abuse for laying down to the rich guys, being walked over.. if our next manager was successful it would have been that fergie was overated... the best one today was that fergie was overated and it was his coaches who were special.. yet who picked those coaches.. its bloody incredible.
A manager delegates.. he picks the coaches.. picks the players.. we dominated English football for one of the longest times ever.. and now its toys out of the pram over one season where we may not make the CL.. City fans et al go on about United fans being plastic fans and f**k me we're living up to it at the moment..
It's a bloody disgrace how some are acting.
Sir Alex has been heard saying, "It's a total nightmare!"
However, it turns out he was referring to a racehorse he has just bought that just refuses to run in the daytime!
I think we can safely add moyes to fergie's mistakes
Interesting reading
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I dont think we can argue we've not spent.. but lets not compare total spending... its incomparable.
However last night again confirmed why Rio should just call it a day. Neville was superbly admirably honest when it was time, he played that west brom game and was a liability.. he walked off and retired. You can lose half a yard of pace and have the experience to cope. Rio is now just too slow. He's been left constantly, even just a step off him at a corner is losing his man.
We've got to blood youngsters now, this season is over. I think with Man U's tradition of youth development we'd be more supportive of moyes if he gambled with youngsters.
I really dont buy Speedy's? comments that Moyes doesnt develop youth, he was superb at Everton either developing or buying in young talent.. but he needs to do it here.
I dont like the targeting of Cleverly, its the older players who have let us down this season. They've slacked off knowing Moyes will take the flack.
Good point,
Of those few would say Evra, Ferdinand, Carrick and Rooney haven't given value for money... and De Gea is looking very good value.
I thinK mata will be an excellent signing, not convinced by Feliani as of yet.
Rafael is a good little player, works hard, good spirit, attacks, but he needs to find a final ball, at the moment he wastes a lot of possession with poor crosses, especially compared to Neville, who Shearer reckoned was one of the best crossers of the ball in the England team.
Neville was always an excellent crosser of a ball; better than Giggs
Everton to finish fourth?
;)
Just looking at the table and there is a good chance they could beat Arsenal to a Champions League spot.
Another nail in the coffin for Moysie??
Time's up now for Moysie. We need Klopp. I think he's growing stale and he'd come at the drop of hat. There may be a learning curve and language barrier initially, but he has the attitude and style we need. Even if he failed, he'd fail doing it in a way more befitting this club. Moyes never will.
Moyes needs to get out for his own sake too. He's become a laughing stock and is going slowly insane. He's a better manager than he's showing right now, this is just the wrong job for him. I've nothing against him at all. I just want him dead. ;)
I think Klopp will come if approached, Bayern have destroyed the German league, basically they buy any of dortmunds better players so they are just a feeder team. Klopp knows that, they try not to sell and their players just run down the contracts and go anyway..
What :confused:
Evra, Ferdinand, Carrick and Rooney HAVEN'T?
I can't buy in to that.
OK I'm a Burnley fan, not Man U, but I have a real admiration for the sides Fergie built over the years.
Evra and Ferdinand have seen better days but they've given a lot and won a lot. Ferdinand should retire now and Evra maybe has another year as cover with Buttner given a chance, or get rid and bring Luke Shaw in.
Carrick has been top drawer through Fergie's reign. He has been fantastic value for money in terms of domestic competition, but perhaps just lacks what is required at the highest level in Europe.
he's perhaps past his best now and likes the dynamism required in midfield. He can perhaps offer what Toure does for City defensively, but he offers nothing offensively.
Rooney - well what a player. His record speaks for itself. He is a world class player. At the start of this season he single handedly kept Utd going and if he hadn't, then Utd would be sitting somewhere around West Ham and Stoke at the moment.
He's struggling at the moment, but I think most would if trying to carry a team through a whole season.
Those 4 have been excellent value for money.
Players values amortised over the seasons they have been at the club:
MANCHESTER UNITED
PLAYER YEAR SIGNED COST PER SEASON De Gea 2011 £6.30m Rafael 2008 £0.42m Phil Jones 2011 £5.67m Ferdinand 2002 £2.50m Evra 2006 £0.69m Fellaini 2013 £27.50m Carrick 2006 £2.33m Cleverley Youth Player £0 Mata 2014 £37.10m Rooney 2004 £2.70m Welbeck Youth Player £0 TOTAL £85.21m AVERAGE £7.75m per player
MANCHESTER CITY
PLAYER YEAR SIGNED COST PER SEASON Hart 2006 £0.19m Zabaleta 2008 £1.08m Kompany 2008 £1.16m Demichelis 2013 £3.50m Clichy 2011 £2.33m Navas 2013 £22.50m Toure 2010 £6.00m Ferdandinho 2013 £30m Nasri 2011 £7.33m Silva 2010 £6.25m Dzeko 2011 £9.00m TOTAL £89.34m AVERAGE £8.12m per player
We'll ignore the fact that whoever created the graphic has been generous on United's transfer fees and conservative on City's!
Subject to FA and League approval Ryan Giggs, Nicky Butt, Paul Scholes, Gary and Phil Neville to buy Salford City FC. Just one of the Class of 92 missing, for some reason he must prefer Miami to Salford
Doubt they'll pass a fit and proper person test Stagger:D
Moyes is lined up for the managers job :D
The FA are looking into whether Fellaini spat at Zabaleta. Presumably that would be far more serious than a forearm smash!:rolleyes:
Top secret images of the people in the plane have been leaked on Twitter.
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