Is losing such an integral part of your make up Danbert that you seriously are saying 'yes we lost better than you did'....
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Is losing such an integral part of your make up Danbert that you seriously are saying 'yes we lost better than you did'....
I can take lots of positives out of last nights game Iain, a clean sheet, we could have scored more than 2, Slavic looked very promising, Bayern may have rested 3 first choice players but barely got a sniff. In all seriousness at this stage of our development that is respectable. The experience will be invaluable in future.
Danbert, you've spent half a billion quid and you're still an inconsequential regional football team with no real history of success. Manchester is famous all over the world for cotton, Best, Charlton and Law, the Smiths, Buzzcocks, Joy Division, John Cooper Clarke :w00t: Lowry etc etc but the best thing about your football team is still Bobby's scarf :closed:
We've just got to learn to play against teams that play well on the counter attack and try different things at set pieces Tup.
Premier league teams do not have players that are lethal in this type of situation (except maybe us and Spurs this season) and it's not something that English teams are strong at defending against in domestic or international football, as our teams are not used to it.
Apart from that we're fine, this season and next (at least) is a learning process. :p
Man U seem to have done quite well at it. Y'know, getting to three of the last four Champions League finals and all that. I'm by no means a Man United fan and I'd like to see City win the league this year as they have great players and play good football... but, they have duffed up in Europe. I'm not sure I buy the experience/learning thing in the Champions League that much, not with the caliber of players at top clubs these days. If City were good enough, they'd have got through.
Having a laugh.... development Danbert........ spending hundreds of millions to be knocked out by Napoli....
Every Man City player on the pitch last night has played European club football and international football for their country.
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A little old lady was walking past the Etihad Stadium this afternoon, struggling with all her christmas shopping..
The chairman spots her and shouts out the window, "Can you manage love?"
"Piss off!" she replied, "I don't want that hopeless job!"
Two things that made me laugh today.
On Saturday in respect of the terrible happenings in Manchester, before kick off, the Premier League Games will have 1 minute of LAUGHTER!!! :w00t:
Looking at the TV schedules of where you can watch your team in Europe over the Wnter :-
Arsenal & Chelsea Sky & ITV
Man U and Man C on C5
Liverpool - ESPN Classics :thumbup:
and finally just one point to make on the latest premier league standings. I think we have been here before - I'll give you a clue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXpUdBlRZe8
I wonder :rolleyes:
Are you really taking that much from beating a team with nothing to play for? They'd topped the group..
Don't forget we won 3 and drew 1... in our first outing in the Champions League... how many teams do you know that haven't qualified or even won the group with 10 points? Many teams this year won the group on 9 points!!! I for one am happy with what we achieved and it's all progression... barca, real, inter etc are all happy we have been dropped into Europa, the last team they would want is us as the "all mighty" teams will see us as the bannana skin club...
Lets just wait till next year eh? :wink:
From a proud Yorkshireman, just face it Danbert both manc's clubs did crap but are gutted to have only cockneys in the comp.
Northern clubs for me any day.
It doesn't look like Gary Neville will be getting a Christmas card from Andre Villas-Boas this year :D
EH? How many teams have suddenly had hundreds of millions pumped into them and gone out and bought many players with CL and even winning the CL experience... City are almost unique in world football with the millions suddenly pumped in.. even chelsea already had a solid footing, decent team when Roman pumped his millions in... city were a backwater team... then spent hundreds of millions on top class players so you'd expect qualification...
Not qualifying was an embarrassment for both clubs.
it has just been announced that serious design flaw has been discovered at Old Trafford
the seats are all facing the wrong way!!!
In my honest opinion the Champions League can become an unhealthy obsession. Just look at Chelsea jumping from one manager to the next, none of them able to think about the long term and sticking with the old guard and not investing in the future.
Mancini's put together a squad capable of winning the Premier League and domestic cups, he's also got a talented bunch of young players to come through into the team and with the occasional acquisition and moving players on we'll grow stronger.
So no, i'm not to obsessed by the Champions League it'll come to us in time. :p
Danbert, it's all about the Champion's League nowadays. Fourth in the Premier League is more important than winning the FA Cup :closed:
I've been watching City for 14 years now and if you'd have said to me back then that they would be playing in the champions league and winning cups i'd have pissed my sides,i dont care that they got knocked out,fourteen years ago i went to my first ever game,we beat bournemouth 2 - 1,on wednesday i saw them beat Bayern Munich,i'm buzzing :w00t:
I hear what you are saying Tup yet I still reckon City took an enormous step forward in the Champions League this year. Ultimately the only difference between City going through as champions of the group and finishing 3rd was that bloody 1-1 draw with Napoli in our very first Champions League game.
People on here have said 'City have very experienced players in major competition' and so on, but the fact is that the first Champions League game was a real learning experience for City - as a club and that does weave its way through all areas.
Playing at home the Club had more pressure on them than Napoli. It's not an excuse (we don't need excuses because we're progressing not failing), it's a fact. And like the Community Shield game when we ultimately came unstuck, the Club learned from the experience.
This club, under Mancini, is learning all the time and to have reached the Champions League and to face 3 significant sides (no one should underestimate Villareal's European pedigree in recent years) is achievement.
Of course, as fans, we all wanted to progress, but we are not as upset as some forumites (rags) on here think we should be. That's because we recognise that City are still learning, still developing. Ultimately 1 goal conceded at home to Napoli in our very first Champions League game was the only issue. People can talk about style of play, approach to games, players refusing to get off the bench or whatever, but ultimately it was one goal in our first game. That's all.
I'm with young Fleeter - It's definitely worth pausing for a moment to remember that not to long ago we were in the third tier of English football, yet here we are this year having headed the League table for possibly our longest spell ever (I need to just check the 1967-68 but i'm sure it was a late surge.) We're also through to a major semi-final and we're in the Europa League - the second most significant trophy in Europe. City are making significant progress in all areas and, as fans, i think most of us recognise that.
For me it was interesting to observe how the 2 sets of Manchester fans greeted their champons League exits. As I drove home from the match Radio 5 had predominantly Utd fans calling. 2 asked for Fergie to resign (plus criticised Rooney etc.) and were very downbeat. They had 1 City fan on (as I listened), they tried to get her to say she was disappointed/frustrated at City's defeat and she did the exact opposite. She talked of this being part of our progression and that City are still at the beginning.
She was spot on, but it still surprised Radio 5. They tried to suggest we would see it as a real failure, yet the 2 defeats were different. City were looking for an impossible scenario where-as United were going for what should have been a bread and butter result for a team that had their level of investment, support and so on over the last 30 years.
Worth remembering as a final point - it took Ferguson almost 4 years (with the highest level of investment in a squad that any manager had ever been given) to win a major trophy at Utd and 13 years to win the Champions League. Arsenal & Chelsea despite their investment and domestic record have yet to win the trophy.
Mancini won a major trophy in his first full season at City; took the Blues to 3rd place (equal 2nd on points!) and now has taken us through our first CL campaign with honour and into the latter stages of the Europa League, plus of course the League Cup semi and much to play for.
This is a very positive time for City, we are living the dream and I can't wait for 2012. :wink:
You've had a superb domestic record though and Chelsea have had loads of investment yet neither of you have managed to win the CL trophy yet. Similarly it took Baconface almost 4 years (with the highest level of investment in a squad that any manager had ever been given) to win a major trophy at the rags and 13 years to win the Champions League. :confused:
Danbert, I liked your reply, but there is only one 'major trophy' at the level to which aspire and that's the Champions League. The Premiership is a passport to the big time, and little more than that (sadly)
Yes you're right Tup..... but at every home game these days, I spend a few moments pre-match, recalling all those terrible times in the second and third divisions when we were pinning our hopes on the likes of David Brightwell, Rae Ingram, Ged Brannan, Jim Whitley, Lee Bradbury, etc ... then I look at who's going to entertain me today; Joe Hart, David Silva, Sergio Aguero, Yaya Toure, Mario Bakotelli, etc ...how can i be too disappointed. Unfortunately for them United fans just don't have that background or humility. ;)
The only clubs, who have won more than us domestically, are Liverpool and Man U. We were robbed against Barca in 2006. I'm sure we'll win it one day and when we do it'll be that much sweeter!
It takes a while to adjust to the CL, we didn't really make an impact until we beat Inter 5-1. Having lived up here for a decade and seen their fans stick with the club through thick and thin I like Man City and I hope they do well. January is a massive month for you!
You're a true blue Fleeter you've been bruised, battered, beaten, frustrated, overcome, trodden, trampled, exhausted, tired, spent, faded, weary, drained, wilted, crushed.devestated................. but still UNBROKEN!!
We must never forget where we've been but hope all the above is now behind us mate.:wink:
How's the bird box after all these years?
I'll be watching from Orkney - set off 8:00 in the morning.
Hope it lives up to it's billing, but I'm thinking 0-0.
A regular conversation in the pub after the match about 5 years:
"We're in trouble. We could end up going down. If not this season then next"
Everyone takes worried sip of beer, Brief silence descends.
"What we need is some billionaire to buy us".
Everyone laughs ironically.
"Yeah, imagine. Buy all the best players and all that. Knock those red b*stards off their perch for good"
More laughter
"Imagine Baconfaces face? City come to Old Trafford and humiliate them!"
Louder laughter
"Win the league and that. Can you imagine if City won the league? What it would feel like?"
Lots of "Yeah" and "Jesus". Everyone drifts into their imaginations for a second.
"Won't happen though, will it?"
"Course it f*cking won't, we'll always be shit"
Rueful Laughter as conversation moves on.
Little did we know we were discussing the future hey matey;)
Hope city beat chelski, will make this gooner very happy.
Next week, quite frankly I'm worried that city will beat the invincibles record. Do I expect a red victory, I wont put money on it, but there's always hope with RVP on the pitch. In Arsene we trust, though I'm glad I wont have to go into school the next day and face too much ribbing, please don't let it be the same as the Man U game that was just humiliating (and I went to Wrexham in 92!!!)