Oh no!
He's off again!
Stop it now..i cant type through crying.:D
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Oh no!
He's off again!
Stop it now..i cant type through crying.:D
I'm not sure, mate. But it sounds like it was just going straight to your stomach and straight out again... so to speak. Rather than getting around your whole body which is where it is needed. Another thing is maybe the rest of your diet has a high Vit C content already eg, loads of Fruit etc, and by adding such a high dose your body was just ejecting it. I don't have that problem as i don't eat enough fruits etc. Also i don't know how hard you train, but i've had people come and train with me that have needed to take 3000mg per day (i'm a bit of a sadist when it's comes to coaching:D )... As athletes we need much more Vit C than the RDA... as that is solely based on being a couch potato... Try the effervescent tablets, i would normally tell people to flood there system with it to start with eg 3000mg a day... but in your case just start with the 1 a day broken into 2 drinks the way i currently do it... and see how it goes... remember you can always up the dose either if you feel a cold coming on, or if you have trained harder than normal.
good luck.
Thanks for that JLH,
Ill give it a go.
Cheers
Jamie
More serious answers - I've definitely read that you can't overdose on Vit C - that the body just gets rid of it harmlessly. Do the crystals have a lot of artificial sweetener in by any chance? That could be causing your.... problem.
Used to take the Tesco 1mg day tablets, and swore that what why I never got many colds. Haven't taken them for months now though, and still haven't had a cold (touch bloody wood)!
Knew I shouldn't have said that! Talk about jinxing yourself. I've got a right bloody sore throat now - and I want to do Kinder Trial tomorrow!!:mad:
Large vitamin C doses could actually have a negative effect on health (aside to those already discussed here...). Linus Pauling, biochemist and Nobel Laureate, advocated taking high doses of vitamin C for just about everything from the common cold to mental health problems. He even claimed that his own high doses of vitamin C delayed the onset of his prostate cancer, which eventually killed him. It's actually possible that the presence of a really oxidative compound such as vitamin C in his urine could have aggrevated the prostate cancer. He claimed to take 12 g a day and upped it to 40 g if he ever felt a cold coming on.
There have been some cases in the US (where else) of people taking enormous doses (> 50 g). Their bodies get so used to getting rid of the stuff that when they drop back to normal doses they can't absorb the required amount and suffer vitamin C deficiency.
Basically, everything in moderation. 1000 mg a day is not bad, but remember, neither is a cold. It may bugger up your training but it keeps your immune system ticking over.
DB
Jamie, don't give up the Vit C.
You should have taken SLOW RELEASE tablets rather than the fizzy laxative type. That bloke Linus Pauling (mentioned by Dr B in this thread) may have been a bit extreme but you can't dismiss entirely someone who won 2 Nobel prizes.
Most alternative health practitioners extol the virtues of vitamin C and unless you already live on a diet of fruit you should get benefits in terms of less colds and viruses. I wont bore you with details - there is tons of stuff on the www.
Personally I take about 3 to 4g of Vit C per day if I feel that there is risk of a cold. I never take less than 2g per day. Your body can't store Vit C so a sudden massive dose is not much use.
I suggest you try taking up to 4 x 1g slow release tablets at intervals during the day with food. If you get the shits you've taken too much (your last the problem was more likely that it was the wrong form than the amount as 1g is only excessive as a sudden hit). Get well.
Cheers for that Tryer,
Hows the recovery after the op going?
I have knocked the Vit C on the head at the moment, when I was getting the shits I was on Anti-biotics for sinusitus and taking loadsa lemsips for my cold. I was also on Ibuprofen for the sinus headaches (drugstore cowboy or what). So it may not have been entirely the Vit C, it could have been any of the above.
Im back running this week without incedent as of yet, although my breathing is horrendus but I can live with that.
I have also lost 6 pounds since christmas
Im not taking any vit C or anti biotics or lemsips at the minute so I'll probably get back running steady and reintroduce the vit C in a different format.
(Did I mention the vit C crystal I bought where 1 month out of date, bargain at 99p. I dont think that had anything to do with it though)
Thanks for the later more sensible replies to my prob.
Going very well thanks... I have moved my full reply to the Nasal Polyps thread. Seemed more appropriate!
Jamie, I've taken a high dose (2 to 4 g.) irregularly for over 20 years to cure/prevent colds & it also works for hay fever. :)
If I take too much it is a similar effect to eating too much fruit :eek: :eek: .
A study in USA of very high dosage users over many years found that the only other side effect was that crystalls formed in the kidneys of some users which disappeared when the Vit. C was stopped.
Regards,
Max. ;)
Cheers for your reply Max,
Now Im off the Anti-Bitocis and Lemsips I may re-introduce the Vit C
Please don't get jamie reminiscing.....
i did not say I was soiling Baz did, I said it gives me stomach cramps and makes me feel like a crap.
Your a moderator how can you let this go on.
Perhaps I should switch to the C Beebies or Tweenies forum. I may get a more thought provoking response.
Im a lot better now by the way, thanks for your concern
:D
As well as taking protein supplements I also ingest 7 grams of vitamin C a day. After 3 weeks of doing this I have found I can now see in the dark.
This is handy as I often go for a run at night time when it isn't so warm.
I also drink a litre bottle of Kombucha a day, which is a drink made from fermenting a mushroom in sweet tea. This has given me the energy to train 3 times a day.
I was going to add to this thread but i fee that vitamin C has been covered from every conceivable angle.
Have a bit of knowledge from reading literature during my uni days on vit C. Hope this helps. Vit C is a powerful antioxidant and can combat the free radicals that can build up during heavy training and day to day life, so in this respect it is very good training aid. However the body will only absorb what it needs and will therefore not ever require 1850% RDA (its not a case of the more you recieve the more powerful the response). Vit C is a water soluable vitamin so will just be excreated from your body. In addition although it is still a debated point, its more likely that the body can absorb vitamins more effectively in there purest form i.e oranges, kiwis and the like. Suggest you up your fruit intake and give your poor intestines a rest.
A year on and a lot of Muddy Water under the bridge :eek: (err) The moral of this thread is:
Stay off the powder form and suck an orange:D,
also friends are always around when times are s**t
Magical properties continued: It also helps cuts heal quicker. :)
Regards,
Max. :cool:
P.S. I've not had a cold since last summer.
Like Amex says s**t happens;)
Sound shit mate...
But seriously, the boffins now reckon that there are other componds in fresh fruit and veg that boost the immune system, and they work together, so taking one part of that as tablets may not be at all effective, they reckon it's better to eat a balanced diet (one third starchy foods, one third fruit and veg, 12% protien 15% dairy 8%fat & sugary foods) than take supplements. Nature knows what it's doing......:rolleyes:
This is worth reading:
http://www.quackwatch.com/01Quackery...DSH/colds.html
To much anecdotal 'evidence' surrounding this subject but no hard evidence. As far as I'm concerned the only way to build immunity to a virus is through exposure i.e. catch it and get better.
Still, it's worth peddling the vitamin C myth if it means we get threads like this. I've just read it all: it's hilarious.
Nice link, you've got a few contributors thinking now Cotswoldrunner, see glucosamine thread. The thread on cramp is possibly funnier than vit C though, more unsubtantiated opinion and anecdote than you'd believe possible. Nothing I like better than an uncontrolled unblinded scientific trial N=1.
These health and injuries fora are worrying, do they reflect the hopelessness of education in science, poor health and science journalism or a failure of the healthcare profession? Perhaps the population are just desperate to believe semi mythical twaddle dressed up as fact, rather than current science. It sits easier in the mind than the reality of many uncertainties, unprovens and don't knows.
Sorry, I've probably offended a number of contributors in one fell swoop there.
Here's a site of relevance: http://www.badscience.net/
Thought I'd revive this thread. A very interesting article appeared in the news recently:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4238250.stm
Flipping heck, Chris, that news article is nearly 3 years old!
Sorry I posted the wrong site. Try this:
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...to-beat-cancer
Saw the story on the front page of the Daily Express yesterday, and thought it was new. Not so sure now!
Didn't have you down as an Express reader, Chris.
I'm not. I went into Tesco on Tuesday night and saw it on display with that story on the front page.
I never buy newspapers, although someone I know drops off the Daily Mail, just to keep me in touch with all the bad news.:rolleyes:
Lets hope the Vit C treatment works for humans.
Thank goodness for that.
You had me worried there for a moment.
What's wrong with the Express? My mother in law gives it to me to read but I use it to mix with my grass clippings, and other household rubbish, on the compost heap. Loads of pages!
Can i just say this thread is quality, i can't remember if a satisfactory conclusion was ever reached but can i point out that fruit has never let me down as a way of keeping colds away.
Wow,
cant believe this has been dragged up again guys.
It was a real S**ty time for me this.
Jamie
Vitamin C is ascorbic acid and is naturally found in nature, while some animals have the ability to produce their own vitamin C, human beings do not produce vitamin C themselves and are totally reliant on the vitamin C they get in their diets. If we don't eat vitamin C then within about six weeks we develop the signs of deficiency of vitamin C.