Yep it’ll be great in twenty years time when Giles from the city surveys his little flock of hobby Herdwicks in Waaasdale (deliberate misspelling as Giles won’t be able to pronounce it properly) yep, the Lake District will be lovely.
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Despite the various rights and wrongs of the principles of it... We live in a country (and are lucky to do so) where everyone can pick and chose where they live... Providing they can afford it, and the availability is there...
It may well be a contentious issue, and it's obviously very complex... But going down the route of telling people they can only live close to their birthplace is not an avenue we want to be going down...
I'll say without shame that I will certainly be moving somewhere far closer to the hills when my time to retire comes... Of course I'll be aware of local concerns, and won't for example be buying up property in Wasdale or Borrowdale Valley... But we all have the right to live where we like and long may that continue...
I’m not bothered particularly about people who move to the Lake District, it’s more the second home owners buying up property which winds me up and obviously the monstrosity that is millionaires mile on the way into Windermere.
also happening in the cities too... vast swathes of new developments being bulk-bought by Chinese property investors and then left empty.
Meanwhile in the real world is a messy compromise - late great Steve Cliffe ( forced by losing his job in the Midlands),then worked in the city, commuted there from rugby, had a weekend home in the lakes. The week was surviving. Weekend was living. Would you deny him that?
One of the frequent contributors here is a week commuter to London from country.
Your stereotypes are not helpful.
I’m past arguing with you Oracle, stay at home 953 today, you have no reason to try to bend the rules.
But then I’ve stated I am not breaking rules, so why ask again?
Examples from our own community prove your stereotype on second home owners is wide of the mark.
Would you have preferred Steve did not run on the fells because of being forced to work in the city?
Fair questions.
A steady 7 miles early doors, lovely morning.
Just over 7 miles around the Roman ruins - gosh it's perfect weather.
10.5 miles, 1100ft, 3:20 with MrsWP.
Very quiet.
New section just north of Hoghton Tower I've never done before.
Back on the mountain bike for 11k on the trails and tracks.
Very quiet off-road but plenty of cars when I crossed roads.
I don't know why Cumbria has a higher level, just as I don't know why Blackburn seems to have a lower level than other old Lancs towns like Rochdale, Bolton, Bury....
Perhaps there are local reasons, or perhaps it is just luck.
But when my daughter worked in Cumbria NHS recently based at Workington, because of the setup, she was often travelling to Carlisle, Whitehaven, Kendal and occasionally Barrow because they didn't all host the same services.
So perhaps the cross county travel often required to access services by public, or to provide those services locally by the professionals, has something to do with it. You can certainly imagine that creating a problem in the Care Home sector, which is perhaps serviced more locally elsewhere in the North West.
At present around 50 miles a week, so at least 7 x 7 miles, in normal circumstances around 70-75 and on weeks with a long run around 90, quiet often run with MRS DTR once a day and then on my own in the evening. As you can probably understand I’m finding the current restrictions very hard
That's pretty awesome running. I can't usually get above 50 miles per week when things are normal, i.e work etc.
Training twice a day at the moment but can't see me getting much above 70 per week.
The strange thing being your running has come down with the restrictions, whilst mine has gone up!
The main reason for my drop in mileage is that my normal evening run is 10 miles but goes around the beach and through a National Trust car park which has been closed, Mrs DTR told me off and said if I went that way it looked like I was heading to the beach when I shouldn’t be so I cut that part out and lost 3 miles, the route I have now just works at 7 miles without having to have too much contact with others save the first and last half miles. I’m sat here now with the dog on my knee looking at the sun and rattling away because I can’t go out, I have a serious running addiction :D
If i lived in the Lakes/Snowdonia, it would certainly encourage me to run more miles (i think my last week's holiday in the Lakes i knocked up 101 miles)
However the thought of going for a bog-standard "evening run" round here, with no purpose, doesn't appeal to me much at all... i'd much rather get on a treadmill and do some decent hard work followed by a gym session, or a club session on the track/road.
My evening run at the minute is quite industrial so in effect I can just zone out, a form of meditation I suppose and a bit like treadmill running, Mrs DTR had a treadmill before we moved to our current house but I never used it, I would rather just go out whatever the weather. I’m quite a fan of running through town as well sometimes, a bit of people watching/ looking in pub windows etc makes for a different run.
Back in marathon days, I tried doing 90-100 but later found less was more. I never recovered on that regime. Always knackered.
I ran much faster times on 5 day running. A very long. A moderately long fast, a set of long reps and maybe two pace runs over 10 and 6, was maybe 60 total.
Translating to fells a 4 -6 hour slow , a 2-3 hour fast. Two one hours and a set of hill circuit reps lasting an hour. All my best times came from those, and could do any AL off that training.
I did get out on the roads today, but a fairly typical one for these parts... have to cross the largest council estate in North Warwickshire to get out to the country roads, so not a scenic start... then once out in the country, managed about 10 minutes before nearly getting mowed down by three cars racing each other.
My coach is of the opinion you should run every day (if your fitness is up to it), but only hard twice a week. So if racing every weekend then that's only one hard session in a week.
I do find it difficult to manage everything, as we tend to have two club hard sessions a week (99% of my clubmates consider my racing schedule to be utterly reckless, and they might race 5 times a year outside of cross country and road relays). But i'd prefer to have a hard hill session in there too, if time permitted. I tend to drop the hard hill session, and keep the club sessions, as i think it's important to run hard on the flat even when training for fells.
[QUOTE=Travs;659541]No doubt there are idiots about... But not seen anything published about exactly where they are originating from. Without casting aspersions, I'd estimate a lot more coming from the fringes of Cumbria itself than travelling half the country.
Here you go :-
https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon...ce-way-4032988
and :-
https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/n...strict-4037004
plenty more to be found if you look but this one below is the winner:-
https://twitter.com/VisitKeswick/sta...948417/photo/1
A whole load of folk showing common sense and compassion for which I for one thank them.
I very much suspect not! Especially if you were doing 90-100 mile weeks, you obviously had more ability than I'll ever have.
One of our older guys, in his 60's, was from the Ron Hill, Dave Bedford era.... 100 mile weeks, every week... Had a marathon best of somewhere between 2:15-2:20....
There's a club legend that he ran something like 2:15 one weekend, and 2:21 the next weekend... Not sure if true, but an absolute beast nonetheless!
Quality not quantity.
Mass miles on hard surfaces ruined so many runners.
Ground with give in it and different cadence lengths helps in all aspects.
There's got to be some kind of element of quantity though.
My belief is if you're not doing, say, 20-25 miles a week consistently, then there's not really much point in doing "quality" hard sessions, you'd be better off building up a base of consistent running until that point.
I see so many people in the gym who do one "cardio" session a week and try to do it flat out, then wonder why they get hurt/injured.
I'm a regular on Bing Maps. I use the OS option to check out minor paths and the years of checking has helped in recent weeks as I have managed to keep well out of the way by using some of these seldom trodden routes.
Just tried to look this morning and the OS option isn't working. Can see the road option, and aerial view.
Could it be a plot to make it harder to venture out ;)
Not so. Very ordinary runner.
At my best I was a 2.45 capable, that harboured ambitions of breaking the magic 2.37. Never got close.
I ramped up miles for a season and just got slower. I had more DNFs that year, than anytime before or after, All my best times were off a 5 day 50-60 mile programme.
No junk miles at all. All but the very long were faster than marathon. Two days off saw improvement, the quality sessions became higher quality. Also, tapering I found it was better to actually increase quality but substantially drop volume. So the 9 rep session tapered to 5 but faster etc.
And today's permitted exercise was to cut our lawns front and back.
Next doors lawns as they gave me a thumbs up out of their window (they are on total lockdown due to ill health reasons)
Pensioners across the road and grass verges for 3 properties.
Good deeds and good exercise.
4000 steps counted on the phone😃
Yep, better than me then...
the guys i usually find myself around in training are sub-3 for marathon, but only just, so i suppose that is the best i could hope for. Could perhaps aim a little higher if i gave up this fell malarkey and dedicated myself to the roads... but that isn't going to be happening.
Bike ride up to the reservoir where there was not a single person, good, there shouldn't be. Then a lovely ride round the reservoir on the forest tracks and back home. Total of 20 miles and 2500ft, my first 20 miler this year but slowly creeping up on the ascents and feeling fine :D
10 miles, 1100ft, 3:08
Today was notable for the picnic bench in the middle of nowhere which someone has seen fit to cover with poo, presumably to discourage anyone from sitting there.
It's a bench I've passed several hundred times, and never once sat there anyway, but seems a tad OTT to me.
I was considering a duathlon for tommorrow; so a bike leg out to a run, and a bike leg back. I thought i'd better recce the run leg start point as there have been reports on here of local vigilante action around the Washburn Valley. This is what i found:
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Rights of way obstructed by means of improvised metal gates and galv fencing, unofficial notices stating that the locals have taken the decision to close the ROW. During my discussion with the landowner another local turned up in a VW camper and stated he intends to turn the dogs on anyone who uses public rights of way through his farmyard. It is an offence to obstruct a public right of way.
I've reported it to North Yorks County Council, it is a County matter not a Borough or Parish matter because it concerns a right of way which comes under 'Transport', and transport matters seem to be the responsibility of County Councils. You have to download a form and email it in, it's a bit of a faff and you need to know the name of the Parish the area falls under, visit the site https://www.achurchnearyou.com/ to determine which parish you are in. The police have said that it is nothing to do with them, i rang them also.
I think in principle unlawful obstruction of rights of way needs challenging. These lot are ganging together and acting from a position of mob rule. The guys cat came to say hello to me while i was there; as i bent down to stroke it he went nuts saying i could transmit the virus to the cat! What i saw was a man crippled by fear and acting out of desperation, part of me wished i could release him from this torture.