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    Re: Marathon Pace????

    Cheers guys!

    So head out at around 7 min miles and improve on Muds effort by falling to pieces about 18 I reckon!

    At least there will be plenty of cake to eat at the end!

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    Re: Marathon Pace????

    What times are Roadrunner and Bisto hoping for?

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    Re: Marathon Pace????

    I'm hoping slower than me if I want to win!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calf View Post
    Right then people for all you hill runners out there its the London marathon this sunday and I'm having a go!

    What I'm hoping for is some advice as to what pace I should be running!

    When I entered at the middle of Jan (club place) I'd set myself the target of getting under 3:15.
    However recent half mara and 10 k times. 1:23.57 and 37:23 respectively indicate that I 'could' be looking at sub 3.
    Now here's the but!

    But due to niggling shin pain I haven't done much road training at all. In fact bar last week I can't remember the last time I ran on the road other than races so I'm lacking 18+ mile training runs I should have got in!

    So do I head out at sub 7 min miles and try to hang on but risk a wall hitting hour for the last 10k?
    Or got out at 7:20 ish and see if I can pick the pace (its a long way) toward the end assuming I'm feeling ok????
    I would say that half marathon time is pretty borderline for sub 3, and the fact that your 10K time is better in equivalent times, says that you do lack the mileage to do sub 3

    In the end , breaking that barrier is about confidence when it starts to get tough - so unless you are confident you probably wont do it!

    Still, you can surprise yourself, and have an exceptional day.

    I reckon the strategy that will work is to run easily to 10 miles - half way deliberately without looking at your watch at all ( and trying to avoid looking at the gantries too)

    You will struggle to get up to pace before cutty sark anyway.

    Take a decision at half way. If you are there feeling easy in 1.35 or less, pick it up to claw back a couple of minutes by 20, and then finally decide there whether to go all out to the end.

    1.40 at half way,and you can probably forget it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysinjured View Post
    1.40 at half way,and you can probably forget it!
    Unless you have paced it right and you have pleanty left in the tank. Running a negative split takes discipline but is far better than just hangining in there with 6 miles to go.

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    I'm going to tag onto the 7 min miles group and see how it goes!

    Whats the worst that can happen!

    I suffer like an arthritic dog chasing a ball and have to walk abit!

    If it goes ok then I get a time I'm well pleased with!

    Either way I'll be doing another in the year so not like it'd be the end of the world!

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    Re: Marathon Pace????

    Just dug out my 1992 diary - the first time I broke 3 hours (and it was in London).

    5 miles..........31.30
    10 miles......1.03.45
    13.1 miles...1.24.24
    15 miles......1.37.02
    20 miles......2.10.56
    25 miles......2.48.28
    26.2 miles....2.58.35

    Probably doesn't help as we are all different but I do think you need to be halfway in under 1.30
    and at 20 miles in under 2.15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calf View Post
    I'm going to tag onto the 7 min miles group and see how it goes!
    I'd be careful with that. These pacer groups aren't always that reliable and tend to set off too quickly in my experience. If you have a Garmin or Polar watch, you'd be better off pacing yourself with that.

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    A friend from my club gave me some marathon running advice that had been passed to her from another club runner...

    run the first 20 miles as fast as you can... any fool can run 6!

    Seems perfectly sensible
    I only run so I can eat cake Oh...and drink cider

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    Re: Marathon Pace????

    My London Marathon splits were:

    5 miles 30.57
    10 miles 1.02 34
    Half way 1.22.35
    15 miles 1.34.43
    20 miles 2.08.19
    25 miles 2.44.37
    26.2 miles 2.53.04

    Set off too fast but fit enough to recover and hang on over the last 6 miles to get the sub-3 hour time I wanted.

    PS. I was coming up 63 at the time so young whippersnappers should manage it OK with the right mind-set and adequate training.

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