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    Another solid week, 59 miles 11,750ft. Only low point being yesterdays lacklustre 5km. Although i'm not reading too deeply into it, just going to put it down as a poor run.

    Next week will almost definitely see less miles, although should be productive, as got the first club session back on the track since last winter, and another attempt at a "fast" 5km next weekend.

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    Another 5 Wainwrights ticked off this afternoon. Graystones, Broom Fell, Lord's Seat, Barf and Whinlatter. Only 1 left in the NW fells book. 16km, 800m.

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    Another fantastic solo race/ Strava segment attack yesterday. And of what I used to call the worst possible kind - just 1.23 miles in total up and down Raven Crag at the top of Thirlmere. The climb is brutal - c 850 ft in two thirds of a mile - and so is the descent over a mixture of old steps near the top, rocks and rubble and, yesterday, wet and slick leaves over mud, stones and tree roots.

    Anyway I smashed it, coming in tenth ever on the climb only segment (out of 152) and third ever on the up and down segment (out of 69). 14:37 minutes to the top and 22:53 up and down.

    In drier conditions I can do better .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fellbeast View Post
    Another fantastic solo race/ Strava segment attack yesterday. And of what I used to call the worst possible kind - just 1.23 miles in total up and down Raven Crag at the top of Thirlmere. The climb is brutal - c 850 ft in two thirds of a mile - and so is the descent over a mixture of old steps near the top, rocks and rubble and, yesterday, wet and slick leaves over mud, stones and tree roots.

    Anyway I smashed it, coming in tenth ever on the climb only segment (out of 152) and third ever on the up and down segment (out of 69). 14:37 minutes to the top and 22:53 up and down.

    In drier conditions I can do better .

    I did that last autumn, and think i managed a similar time from the road, if i recall correctly about 14mins up and 8 down. Like you, definitely think time to come off under race conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travs View Post
    I did that last autumn, and think i managed a similar time from the road, if i recall correctly about 14mins up and 8 down. Like you, definitely think time to come off under race conditions.
    The best time to the summit (on Strava) is an amazing 9:52 minutes, by a young up and coming Keswick AC superstar by the looks of things. Top effort that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fellbeast View Post
    Another fantastic solo race/ Strava segment attack yesterday. And of what I used to call the worst possible kind - just 1.23 miles in total up and down Raven Crag at the top of Thirlmere. The climb is brutal - c 850 ft in two thirds of a mile - and so is the descent over a mixture of old steps near the top, rocks and rubble and, yesterday, wet and slick leaves over mud, stones and tree roots.

    Anyway I smashed it, coming in tenth ever on the climb only segment (out of 152) and third ever on the up and down segment (out of 69). 14:37 minutes to the top and 22:53 up and down.

    In drier conditions I can do better .
    From the top of Wansfell Pike down the race descent to the kissing gate at the bottom of the steps is I believe 1,000 ft in 0.6 of a mile. Normally it takes me 7 to 8 minutes; yesterday it took me 11. Ascending took me 23 minutes. It is mainly grass with a few muddy patches and the occasional rock. It is said that the full descent - so including the final stretch on tarmac - has been done at 4 minute mile pace. Amazing if true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike T View Post
    From the top of Wansfell Pike down the race descent to the kissing gate at the bottom of the steps is I believe 1,000 ft in 0.6 of a mile. Normally it takes me 7 to 8 minutes; yesterday it took me 11. Ascending took me 23 minutes. It is mainly grass with a few muddy patches and the occasional rock. It is said that the full descent - so including the final stretch on tarmac - has been done at 4 minute mile pace. Amazing if true.
    Youíd need super dry ground for that though. And rock hard knees!

    Iíve only gone up that track once I think, on the 5 Lakeland passes, but Iíll definitely look to give that a time attack next time Iím in Ambleside
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    I can knock out a mile rep on the flat in 6mins, no problem. So you think that it must be fairly straightforward to hit 5mins/mile or less on a downhill fell section...

    Until you try it. I think on the Jubilee Plunge downhill race (2.1 miles and about 1500ft descent), i only managed about 6:15/mile average... ok it was mid-winter, there were one or two stiles which slowed us down, and i was around 90secs behind the winner, but even he wasn't down at 5min/mile pace.

    It's an unbelievable pace and i'd be more inclined () to think that 4min/mile pace would be more easily achieved on something like the easier parts of the Skiddaw descent, rather than something steeper and a bit more technical like Wansfell...

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    Club night and a track session.

    300mtrs hard, 100mtrs steady. We were told 12 was the minimum. Managed 14. Didn't feel particularly fresh but kept up my recent placing in the group. But have done a lot of strength work last two days so little wonder I didn't feel too spritely.

    8 miles.

    Now debating whether to stick to my plan of another 5km track effort at the weekend, or to do another sharpener track session, similar to today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travs View Post
    I can knock out a mile rep on the flat in 6mins, no problem. So you think that it must be fairly straightforward to hit 5mins/mile or less on a downhill fell section...

    Until you try it. I think on the Jubilee Plunge downhill race (2.1 miles and about 1500ft descent), i only managed about 6:15/mile average... ok it was mid-winter, there were one or two stiles which slowed us down, and i was around 90secs behind the winner, but even he wasn't down at 5min/mile pace.

    It's an unbelievable pace and i'd be more inclined () to think that 4min/mile pace would be more easily achieved on something like the easier parts of the Skiddaw descent, rather than something steeper and a bit more technical like Wansfell...
    I did the Midsummer Madness half marathon based at Box Hill several times. The last half mile or so is the perfect angle for fast downhill running, on lovely smooth short grass. One year I was trying to hold off a chap on my shoulder - and only just succeeded - I did that half mile in 2 minutes and 2 seconds. I was going as fast as I could - so almost 4 minute mile pace. At school, like many, I could do 440 yards in 60 seconds or so, but I hated it.

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