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    Have any been keeping to the rule of 6 in training? And the soon-to-be rule of only one other person with you - does it have to be the same person each time?

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    We've been sticking to the regulations set out by UKA/EA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travs View Post
    We've been sticking to the regulations set out by UKA/EA.
    So only 6 in each group? With no socialising before/after? Or with a coach/coaches in the recommended ratios? I think a lot of clubs will have found it hard to stick to the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike T View Post
    So only 6 in each group? With no socialising before/after? Or with a coach/coaches in the recommended ratios? I think a lot of clubs will have found it hard to stick to the rules.
    Mike, the latest guidance for "organised activity" i.e coached sessions, was that groups of more than 6 permitted, as long as coaching ratios were maintained, which i think was 1 coach per 12 athletes, but i stand to be corrected on that last detail.

    We have been training the past few weeks in a group larger than 6, but keeping to the coaching ratio. Before that, a few of us had been meeting up for an "unorganised activity" i.e a social group session which was not under the name of our club... for that we were sticking to the guidelines which stated no more than 6 for unorganised activities.

    I do think a lot of clubs will have found it hard. However again it is all a grey area. We had about 8 in our club session last night, but after a couple of reps it was immaterial whether there had been 8 or 28 really, as we were doing km reps and we were all spread out (i was approx 20secs/km behind the two faster guys, and 10secs/km in front of the next guy).

    We are more concerned with the perception of the club. Our session was due to be carried out on a quiet loop around a housing estate, but we didn't want to anger any residents, so we elected to carry out the session within the grounds of the University where our track and clubhouse is situated (ironically probably a worse place to carry out the session!)

    However i've just had a text saying that the very latest guidance today has put a stop to all training and events, except for 1-on-1 coaching and training in pairs... so bang goes our sessions for a few weeks (and our internal XC handicap due to start this weekend!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travs View Post
    Mike, the latest guidance for "organised activity" i.e coached sessions, was that groups of more than 6 permitted, as long as coaching ratios were maintained, which i think was 1 coach per 12 athletes, but i stand to be corrected on that last detail.

    We have been training the past few weeks in a group larger than 6, but keeping to the coaching ratio. Before that, a few of us had been meeting up for an "unorganised activity" i.e a social group session which was not under the name of our club... for that we were sticking to the guidelines which stated no more than 6 for unorganised activities.

    I do think a lot of clubs will have found it hard. However again it is all a grey area. We had about 8 in our club session last night, but after a couple of reps it was immaterial whether there had been 8 or 28 really, as we were doing km reps and we were all spread out (i was approx 20secs/km behind the two faster guys, and 10secs/km in front of the next guy).

    We are more concerned with the perception of the club. Our session was due to be carried out on a quiet loop around a housing estate, but we didn't want to anger any residents, so we elected to carry out the session within the grounds of the University where our track and clubhouse is situated (ironically probably a worse place to carry out the session!)

    However i've just had a text saying that the very latest guidance today has put a stop to all training and events, except for 1-on-1 coaching and training in pairs... so bang goes our sessions for a few weeks (and our internal XC handicap due to start this weekend!)
    Thanks - interesting. I am not sure how the presence of a coach somehow made numbers over 6 "safe". Our local club was supposedly doing informal runs - no coach present most of the time - in groups of 6, but photos showed this was not always adhered to. Club vest wearing was strongly discouraged! All irrelevant now, as it is training in pairs only. From the answer to a question on the BBC website, the other person you run with can differ each run if desired. I will continue to run on my own. New cases in the South Lakeland area have jumped up to 69 today.

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    We've got a Virtual 5km handicap within the club, and some in my group are planning to go out in pairs. However i'm planning to train alone and just do the weekly session which our coach sends to the group.

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    Ran the local parkrun course today... 18:37... much improved on a fortnight ago, and only 3 seconds off a pb.

    Still not where i want to be, but it's moving in the right direction, and on a slow course with no other runners to chase down, i'm fairly happy.

    Perhaps most pleasing aspect was that it was ran at an even pace throughout... so i knew i was on for under 19mins at halfway, and that i had the reserves left in the legs to maintain pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travs View Post
    Ran the local parkrun course today... 18:37... much improved on a fortnight ago, and only 3 seconds off a pb.

    Still not where i want to be, but it's moving in the right direction, and on a slow course with no other runners to chase down, i'm fairly happy.

    Perhaps most pleasing aspect was that it was ran at an even pace throughout... so i knew i was on for under 19mins at halfway, and that i had the reserves left in the legs to maintain pace.
    I never cracked 20 minutes for 5 km - but twice I went just under 40 minutes for 10 km - weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike T View Post
    I never cracked 20 minutes for 5 km - but twice I went just under 40 minutes for 10 km - weird.
    Yes!

    My 10km times (on the very rare occasions i've done them), are fairly consistent. Perhaps because you know you need to run them sensibly, so you run a consistent pace.

    I think with 5km it's short enough that you feel you need to hike the pace up from the start, and that can have repercussions for your performance!

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    Well so much for being determined to take it easy on my comeback! In the last week from the 1st Nov I've done 3 x 3 miles steady runs every other day on the flat High Peak trail followed by a 45 mile bike ride on Friday. Yesterday was a rest day apart from 3 hrs hedge/bush cutting.

    This morning just before 11am I attended the Remembrance Service at the village war memorial where there was a turnout of about 50 residents. We, unexpectedly, even sang a hymn. The Lay Preacher started singing and everyone joined her. Usually at this service I am wearing running gear as the Leg It Round The Lathkill Fell Race sets off at 11.30 a few hundred yards away.

    During the service, as well as remembering the fallen I was also remembering last years race so as soon as the service had finished I thought "bugger it" someone has to run it this year so off I went home, got changed, donned my Mudclaws and jogged down to the Lathkil Hotel for the start.

    On the count of 3 2 1 I trotted off at a gentle pace down the slippery leaf strewn hill into the dale. A mild but very misty morning with no breeze which made almost perfect running conditions to wear just a Lifa base layer and vest. The run up the dale was slippery on the polished wet limestone sections but the river was not flooding the path so feet were dry. I had planned, in order not to overdo it, to walk the uphill's but apart from the Cales Dale steps ran the lot, albeit slowly. The fields up to Calling Low, over to Moor Lane and then down to Meadow Place were fantastic to run on with just the right amount of give for the Mudlcaw studs.
    That all changed on entering Meadow Place farmyard where the usual bath of cowshit awaited. A slippery descent through the woods back into the dale and alongside the river to Conksbury Bridge followed by the leg sapping drag back up to the Lathkill Hotel and the finish where I was warmly greeted by no one!

    7.1 miles and 871 feet in a very steady 1hr 14min. 16 minutes slower than my PB. I felt like I could have gone much quicker but managed to hold myself back. Legs a bit tired now and hopefully no injury aggravation so I can get back on the 3 miles on Tuesday.

    Plenty of people about, mainly in twos and threes but 4 groups of 6-8 who obviously didn't live in the same house!

    Anyway a good run out and over the moon to be 1st O/A, 1st MV60 and 1st Local
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