Welsh 3000's

[Scodler]

I'll be having a go at this on Sunday, starting at Pen y Pass. Forecast is good and I'm just back from a week in the Alps so looking forward to a great day out.

[Wheeze]

Good luck Scodler. Looks like this coming Friday for me.

[Joester]

When you guys do a run like this, what do you do about food and drink?

I assume you take a small pack with you, but what do you carry? How much food?
Do you use a drinking bladder?
Do you replenish at Nant Peris and Ogwen? Do you have a support team, or just leave a car/stash?

I did this as a walk last month, we all drank more water than we could have carried, and really relied on having a good scoff at the two meeting points to get us through.

Does your training mean you can do with less food and drink?

[phil the bat]

The Welsh 3000s, now that is an idea. I'm staying in the Conway Valley w/c 17th September, and having now fully recovered from the Lakeland 10 Peaks back in July, methinks another challenge is definitely in order. Especially one like this, a truly superb route out on some fine mountains (and by mid/late Sptember hopefully not too tourist-infested!)

Glad I spotted this thread, I now have inspiration, and a goal to aim for!

[elliptic]

When you guys do a run like this, what do you do about food and drink?

In my case... carried a two litre Camelbak-type water pack filled with weak Hi-5 (it's also got a little pocket for keys, credit card etc and a bungee on the back for stowing a thin jacket) and wore a cycle jersey top with phone and food stashed in the back pockets. Ate a pack of buttered maltloaf and a banana per leg.

Plus road support at Nant and Ogwen... refill water pack, drink pint of sweet tea, eat bacon roll / tin of rice pud / bakewell slices, stash more maltloaf in back pockets. I actually spent 25 minutes relaxing at each stop, which was a bit excessive but Lisa had volunteered to spend the day driving round and it would have been churlish not to take full advantage

Does your training mean you can do with less food and drink?

Maybe up to a point, but I keep munching steadily on the move and the liquid intake is crucial.

[Scodler]

Good luck Scodler. Looks like this coming Friday for me.

Cheers Wheeze. I had a good day considering the weather. It was pretty wet with poor visability until I got to Tryfan so was moving pretty slow over wet, slippy rock.

From Pen y Pass to Aber I did 9hrs 20mins.
Summit to summit time was 7hrs 50mins (first summit Crib Goch)

Should be able to get under 7hrs in dry conditions.

I first did this 7 years ago in 18hrs 30mins, so not a bad improvement! :thumbup:

[Scodler]

When you guys do a run like this, what do you do about food and drink?

I assume you take a small pack with you, but what do you carry? How much food?
Do you use a drinking bladder?
Do you replenish at Nant Peris and Ogwen? Do you have a support team, or just leave a car/stash?

I did this as a walk last month, we all drank more water than we could have carried, and really relied on having a good scoff at the two meeting points to get us through.

Does your training mean you can do with less food and drink?

Hi Joester.

I don't need as much food when I'm running but I make sure that I eat loads for a few days before. I also eat constantly when I'm finished.

On the route I carried a couple of gels and a snack bar for each leg. For water I carry a small water bottle in my hand and fill up whenever possible. My wife met me at the road crossings with some proper food such as pasta or a sandwich.

For kit (not including food) I just carried an emergency blanket, hat, gloves and a mobile phone.

[Joester]

Well done Scodler - and thanks for the info (both of you).
I really aspire to this kind of thing - it's some way off yet, though!

[elliptic]

Aye good effort scodler, I had better weather for mine, dry all the way.

Joester: just give it a go on some smaller scale outings in fine weather, you might be surprised how fast you can move along with kit stripped back to what fits in your pockets. It's not about flat out speed just keeping some momentum... I'm a pretty rubbish runner by most standards

[Wheeze]

Great stuff Scodler. Your timings are really helpful. That is about what I am aiming at.
Re: Scoff and Quaff. 1.5 litre camelbak in a small backpack with prepacked wraps (easier than sarnies to hold) and flapjacks is all I need to for this. Top up drinking with sips from streams if needed. The key is NOT to knock yourself out. Ruddles Rule is crucial.