i got given a flyer in the car park at moel eliol the other week. it looks interesting http://www.redkite-barcudcoch.org.uk and in a really nice spot. there are 2 races over the weekend. an 11 mile on saturday and an 18 miler on sunday, sounds quiet challenging. ive run round nanty arian plenty of times and there are some big, gruelling hills but its a lovely spot. has anyone done either races before?