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    Question Question for Swoop

    Swoop.. If you were on a bus/train that was in motion and you were stood in the aisle and then jumped in the air, why don't you land further back in the bus/train? Instead you seem to move forward with the vehicle and land in exactly the same spot.
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    Re: Question for Swoop

    Quote Originally Posted by Danbert View Post
    Swoop.. If you were on a bus/train that was in motion and you were stood in the aisle and then jumped in the air, why don't you land further back in the bus/train? Instead you seem to move forward with the vehicle and land in exactly the same spot.
    Cos your moving with the vehicle when you jump up. Same reason why jumping up just before a falling lift smashes into the bottom of the shaft is not going to help you one iota.

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    Re: Question for Swoop

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywEnImZ5VqE

    he tries it from outside the train
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    Re: Question for Swoop

    Quote Originally Posted by Danbert View Post
    Swoop.. If you were on a bus/train that was in motion and you were stood in the aisle and then jumped in the air, why don't you land further back in the bus/train? Instead you seem to move forward with the vehicle and land in exactly the same spot.

    Danbert...the only thing i can think of is the fact you are moving at the same speed as the train before you jump.

    When you jump you will start off at the same velocity as the train, but then you will decelerate when you are in the air. The fact that you will only be in the air for a matter of a second, you will not move significantly as you will still be travelling at a similar velocity to the train.

    see equation of motion:

    s= ut + (at^2)/2

    where s = distance, u = initial velocity t= time a = acceleration.

    as t will be small, and "a" will be negative = s will be small.
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    Re: Question for Swoop

    Quote Originally Posted by Danbert View Post
    Swoop.. If you were on a bus/train that was in motion and you were stood in the aisle and then jumped in the air, why don't you land further back in the bus/train? Instead you seem to move forward with the vehicle and land in exactly the same spot.
    Are we going to start the argument about the aeroplane taking of from a treadmill again?
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    Re: Question for Swoop

    Why is this a question for Swoop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    Danbert...the only thing i can think of is the fact you are moving at the same speed as the train before you jump.

    When you jump you will start off at the same velocity as the train, but then you will decelerate when you are in the air. The fact that you will only be in the air for a matter of a second, you will not move significantly as you will still be travelling at a similar velocity to the train.

    see equation of motion:

    s= ut + (at^2)/2

    where s = distance, u = initial velocity t= time a = acceleration.

    as t will be small, and "a" will be negative = s will be small.
    Now 'ang on a bit! Why would you decelerate at all while in the air? Bearing in mind the air you are in is travelling at the same speed as the train. (I wish there was a smillie for smug)

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    Re: Question for Swoop

    Quote Originally Posted by Joliver Jim View Post
    Why is this a question for Swoop?

    Quote:
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    I'm now convinced that running into a headwind hurts you much more than a tailwind helps you.

    Say you were running 7 miles at 7mph hour, 3½ miles out, 3½ miles back.
    It would take you 60 minutes to complete your run.
    Now suppose a wind was blowing which decreased your speed by 1mph on
    the way out and increased your speed by 1mph on the way back.
    The first 3½ miles (at 6mph) would take you 35 minutes.
    The second 3½ miles (at 8mph) would take you 26¼ minutes (trust me).
    Total time would be 61¼ minutes, so the wind has effectively added 1¼ minutes to your time.

    So you were right Danbert!

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    Re: Question for Swoop

    Quote Originally Posted by clodhopper View Post
    Now 'ang on a bit! Why would you decelerate at all while in the air? Bearing in mind the air you are in is travelling at the same speed as the train. (I wish there was a smillie for smug)

    Clodhopper i've just realised that a=0 in my original equation, as there is no horizontal force.

    If however, you performed this on the top of the train, the air resistance would provide a force towards the back of the train and you would land further back wouldn't you?
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    Re: Question for Swoop

    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    Danbert...the only thing i can think of is the fact you are moving at the same speed as the train before you jump.

    When you jump you will start off at the same velocity as the train, but then you will decelerate when you are in the air. The fact that you will only be in the air for a matter of a second, you will not move significantly as you will still be travelling at a similar velocity to the train.

    see equation of motion:

    s= ut + (at^2)/2

    where s = distance, u = initial velocity t= time a = acceleration.

    as t will be small, and "a" will be negative = s will be small.

    Cheers for that General, now I understand!

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    Exactly Fellrunner.

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