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    Kids and young at heart adults building dams is the key.
    But Llani is also correct by cleaning the rivers and allowing water to pass through quicker.

    I had a mate who used to keep a section of the river Calder clear. Chain saw, land rover and trailer were his tools. When Yorkshire water started cost cutting he was on of the first to go.

    The Calder has flooded more in the last 20years than the 50 before that.

    Climate change my arse. Cost cutting by water authoritys for shareholders dividends and building for profit in inappropriate locations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stagger View Post
    Kids and young at heart adults building dams is the key.
    But Llani is also correct by cleaning the rivers and allowing water to pass through quicker.

    I had a mate who used to keep a section of the river Calder clear. Chain saw, land rover and trailer were his tools. When Yorkshire water started cost cutting he was on of the first to go.

    The Calder has flooded more in the last 20years than the 50 before that.

    Climate change my arse. Cost cutting by water authoritys for shareholders dividends and building for profit in inappropriate locations.
    Sounds like the fella who used to lamp up in the factory where I worked, got rid of him because ‘all he does is walks about with his trolley full of fluoro tubes’ surprisingly where they got rid of him, all the lights started to go out, took on someone else who didn’t know where any of the lights were fed from

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    Yep dredging rivers increases the capacity and flow thus helping to prevent backing up and flooding
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    [QUOTE=GeoffB;657884]Er, dredging rivers doesn't prevent flooding,

    Er, I think you'll find it does. It gives the water a freer run to the sea.

    If your gutters are blocked with leaves the water tends to overflow and go somewhere it is not wanted,possibly a wall cavity. Keep your gutters clear of leaves and the water runs freely to where it is supposed to go.

    Simple.

    However, I do agree that slowing it down upstream with various methods will help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llani Boy View Post

    Er, I think you'll find it does. It gives the water a freer run to the sea.

    If your gutters are blocked with leaves the water tends to overflow and go somewhere it is not wanted,possibly a wall cavity. Keep your gutters clear of leaves and the water runs freely to where it is supposed to go.

    Simple.

    However, I do agree that slowing it down upstream with various methods will help.
    It makes intuitive sense to me that clearing out our gutters (rivers) should make it all flow better. But, I wasn't sure if this is actually the case, so I did a bit of web dredging.

    It seems there is evidence to suggest dredging doesn't work: https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ameron-farmers
    But the Guardian and George Monbiot are good at giving one side of the argument.

    And some to say it works in certain places if done well: http://newground.co.uk/blog/how-can-...k-of-flooding/
    But not in the US if poorly devised: https://www.govtech.com/em/preparedn...-Problems.html

    I'm not an expert in this. Make your own mind up after reading a bit.

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    Very dry for the last 6 weeks.
    Drought forecast after February floods?

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    Gunner get bloody warm this week.

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    I heard something on the news about parts of Cumbria getting record daily rainfall for June yesterday. Meanwhile here in Leicestershire it was cloudy and windy, but no rain at all. This was despite my wife hanging the washing out on the line to dry, which is usually a good way to ensure rain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stagger View Post
    Kids and young at heart adults building dams is the key.
    But Llani is also correct by cleaning the rivers and allowing water to pass through quicker.

    I had a mate who used to keep a section of the river Calder clear. Chain saw, land rover and trailer were his tools. When Yorkshire water started cost cutting he was on of the first to go.

    The Calder has flooded more in the last 20years than the 50 before that.

    Climate change my arse. Cost cutting by water authoritys for shareholders dividends and building for profit in inappropriate locations.
    Don’t let myths get in the way of a good story stagger, but the reasn Maggie privatised water was the necessity to spend outrageous sums of money on updating infrastructure of supply and sewers , because all governments ALWAYS failed to keep it up. It was never priority spending so It was falling apart. When Maggie took over there was no more moneyleft. Socialists as always had pissed it up the wall.

    Since which time these water companies( that is their shareholders) have invested massively and also made it much more efficient because of sorting out all the usual overmanning and don’t give a toss attitude of public sector, had water stayed there.

    Meanwhile the shareholders you insult ,
    are mostly pension savers like me , who get far less than half the return on their pensions than you expect as of right on yours, and we frequently get targeted with pensiion Raids including funding al, of covid, for which stagger pays not a penny.

    Many of the companies for which long suffering pension savers only ever got 3 percent dividend have now gone bankrupt. Who is going to fund them? You?

    Stagger Just gets extended holidays on lockdown at our expense. Never risks a penny. Expects three times a fair return, then insults the rest of us.

    So you and the public sector are the ones ripping the system off, not long suffering shareholders. By all means, let’s spend more. Halving you’re pension so it pays for itself is a fair way fund it.

    So you are welcome to your myth, but accept it is a myth.

    Someone has to earn all the money you want to spend like water.
    We haven’t got any more. Less attacks on shareholders please.
    Accept you are one of the few, ripping off the many shareholders.


    You see the thing is, in woke world it is considered good and acceptable to insult shareholders despite the fact the government forces everyone outside public sector to be just that. Forces me to invest in the univestable whilst insulting me for doing so.

    So excuse me if I take it personally, and point out to the accusers, that they in the public sector , not I , are the ones royally ripping off the public purse, whilst my money , not theirs is busy rebuilding dams. I am lending the water companies money for which I get a pitiful return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stagger View Post
    Very dry for the last 6 weeks.
    Drought forecast after February floods?

    Governments solution.

    It includes funding for schemes such as creating sustainable drainage systems - and building hollows in the ground to catch flood water in heavy rain, before storing it to tackle summer droughts.

    Hollows in the ground. Ha ha ha

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