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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonykay View Post
    It has got to the stage where I have been wondering if Braverman was a Labour Party mole, who had infiltrated to the highest levels of the Conservative Party; her increasingly disgusting statements seemed designed to persuade the majority of decent, well-meaning Tory voters to stay at home at the next General Election.
    She's playing the long game. All this will play well with the target voters when the right of the conservative party breaks away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonykay View Post
    Well, you were right that someone was going to lose their job over this issue. Fortunately our PM had the wisdom to know who deserved to lose their job.
    She'll be back.

    Of course, Rowley has kept his job because like him, his employer, Mayor Khan along with the BBC are sympathetic to the cause of the Hamas "militants".
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    Labour Mole! National Front! Well they do say fascist and socialist are two sides of the same coin

    Cards on the table. Not the biggest fan of Braverman. I think she's been over-promoted. Happened to Hancock, Patel and Williamson as well recently.
    But anyone who has a problem with that needs to take a look at the opposition front bench. It ain't that great.

    But I have no issues with her comments.

    We do have a two-tier policing system.

    The protests are hate marches and they are akin to what we have seen in NI. Notice SinnFein and SDLP having a pop, with the usual references to Enoch Powell, another one who was lambasted for being correct.

    As to the long term? Well she won't have a future in the Tory Party as things stand. So if she does want to stay on in politics, jumping ship to Reform might be the way to go, with a few allies.

    There is nothing wrong with being right wing (or left). It is the extremes that are the problem and this weekend saw a handful of extreme right wingers and a hell of a lot more extremist left wingers.
    But who gets the bad press?

    As for the cops, posing for pictures, holding protesters flags while they trespass and set off flares. Refusing to come to the aid of general public at Trafalgar Square under attack by the protesters, I'd be doing some of these coppers as accessories. They were a disgrace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post
    We do have a two-tier policing system.

    The protests are hate marches and they are akin to what we have seen in NI. Notice SinnFein and SDLP having a pop, with the usual references to Enoch Powell, another one who was lambasted for being correct.
    Meanwhile, back in the real world, the U.N. observed a minute's silence yesterday for the 101 humanitarian workers killed in Gaza since the start of the conflict - the largest toll in its 78 year history.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/un-obs...za-2023-11-13/

    Presumably these were terrorists too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Meanwhile, back in the real world, the U.N. observed a minute's silence yesterday for the 101 humanitarian workers killed in Gaza since the start of the conflict - the largest toll in its 78 year history.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/un-obs...za-2023-11-13/

    Presumably these were terrorists too
    I don't know what they are, I don't like it, I don't applaud it. It saddens me. That doesn't mean Hamas aren't terrorists or that many of the so called protesters over the last few weeks have been accomplices or sympathisers.
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    Konstantin puts it better than I can.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGIX6BN7rbs
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    There's a saying in Equestrian Coaching: 'You can take a rider to knowledge, but you can't make them think'.

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    Today I read " We live in an age of too much information, too little knowledge and even less wisdom"
    "...as dry as the Atacama desert".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Breeze View Post
    Today I read " We live in an age of too much information, too little knowledge and even less wisdom"
    I once read that the distinction between knowledge and wisdom is, for example, that while knowledge informs you that a tomato is a fruit: wisdom tells you it's best not to add it to a fruit salad!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mossdog View Post
    I once read that the distinction between knowledge and wisdom is, for example, that while knowledge informs you that a tomato is a fruit: wisdom tells you it's best not to add it to a fruit salad!
    Well said.

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