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    A very flat run at Grimsby this evening, about 3m. About a 1.5m tempo, 1m fast along the seawall, and some lamp post intervals to finish off. The sitting down on the training course has resulted in quite a bit of tightness, everywhere.

    Saw some finches living in the marshes, and saw some sort of Egret-ish wading bird looking for food in the estuary mud. Usual stink of fish and rubbish.
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    Pretty strong run at Cronkley yesterday, and at 10.5m it was the longest run i've done in the last 10yrs. I fell in the river at the turn and the water started peeling my k tape off, which may have contributed to the right knee pain i was getting in the last half mile.

    It was a really good route, i managed to catch a group of 3 including Tindersticks at the rejoining of the gravel track, and decided to go for a long one. I train for this kind of thing because people generally are less likely to go with you if you step on the gas with 15mins still to go.
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    Good stuff MrB.... Daz was saying today that you ran really strongly yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travs View Post
    Good stuff MrB.... Daz was saying today that you ran really strongly yesterday.
    The course favoured me quite strongly, i had a good day. My right knee hurts a bit due to the distance so i might have to miss Theiveley...which won't favour me due to the distance. Keeping my powder dry for Curbar would be a better long term strategy.
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    Nice 50m ride to the craven arms and back on sunday. Not lighting the fire yet, though.
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    Theiveley Pike today, 4.3m 1350'. Don't remember the course being that rough and awkward to navigate, I went wrong on the final drop to the track and lost my advantage on the guy behind me. It's difficult to look up when you're all in. Tindersticks had a belter and rocked up eleventh, very close to a sub 40 iirc. I scored 81.5 points for the [email protected] which is better than I expected, the descents were greasy and rough which suited a PB Racer just fine.

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    Theiveley Pike today, 4.3m 1350'. Don't remember the course being that rough and awkward to navigate, I went wrong on the final drop to the track and lost my advantage on the guy behind me. It's difficult to look up when you're all in. Tindersticks had a belter and rocked up eleventh, very close to a sub 40 iirc. I scored 81.5 points for the [email protected] which is better than I expected, the descents were greasy and rough which suited a PB Racer just fine.
    But it is a classic route: steep climbs to utilise power, long flat sections for speed work and fabulous descents. My 10th time today.
    "...as dry as the Atacama desert".

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    That's the thing about the shires, flat speed counts. In the lakes, it's useless.

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    Whilst I understand the point you're making... Look at the top Cumbrian runners, and those at the top of the English/British Champs...

    They are all rapid on the roads as well, or county level (or good placings in the national) at cross-country.

    It still counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travs View Post
    Whilst I understand the point you're making... Look at the top Cumbrian runners, and those at the top of the English/British Champs...

    They are all rapid on the roads as well, or county level (or good placings in the national) at cross-country.

    It still counts.
    As I see it, speed on the flat is a simple motor skill, whereas technical ability on the fells is a complex motor skill - like height and hair colour they are unrelated, and you are very lucky if you have both. And if you can only have one of them, and you want to run on the fells, technical ability is the one to have.

    Some years ago, out of interest, I tried to work out the VO2 max of a small number of top fell runners by looking at their best times at various distances on the flat. I was surprised how modest some of them were - VO2 max's of around 60 - though there were one or two exceptions. I wish I had kept the details, as it took quite some time to find the relevant information.

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