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    I eventually did hear back from Inov8 (see earlier post) and had a helpful exchange with someone there who basically made a bit of a case for the new red/blue ones being an improvement, but also acknowledged that there was enough of us out there who actually preferred the previous yellow model and hence they'd decided to do a a re-run in a different colour to meet that demand.

    The 'logic' behind the new red/blue ones was that some people seemingly wanted/needed a flatter heel because they were finding with the yellow ones their heel rolled on harder ground....which seemed to me a bit odd because it either seems to suggest they probably weren't best equipped for fell running in the first place, or might have wanted to consider buying a shoe designed for hard surfaces (no shortage of those around) rather than one that was designed for the very muddiest of off road conditions (clearly not very many of those around that are much cop). Why Inov8 would compromise the shoe that set the standard for muddy conditions by trying to turn it into something that people with poor balance could use on harder surfaces was beyond me, but I'm sure it made sense somewhere along the line.

    In any event, the rather dismal red/blue ones I've got will stay relegated to training duties until they can be justifiably binned, and I'm hopeful S Claus may bring me a nice new pair of green/black ones.....I still think Inov8 were daft for replacing the yellow ones, but good on them for listening to those of us that were grumbling about it and responding accordingly. Picking up on Derby Tup and Graeme 78 I'd happily have a pair of 330s again too for old time's sake and my brother never quite recovered from the sad demise of his much loved 285s - poor chap has been moving from slightly unsatisfctory shoe to slightly unsatisfactory shoe ever since.

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    I don't have poor balance, nor did I want a shoe for hard surfaces!

    Personally I prefer the red/blue ones they are lighter and, as I've said before, I'm yet to find them wanting in terms of grip and have used them numerous times on steep, wet ground in the Lakes.

    Fair play if you prefer the old ones - I liked them too and the PB ones are a nice colour...

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    fair point - wasn't intending to impugn anyone who might have developed a preference for the red/blue version for other reasons, just trying to pass on how it was explained to me (plus I have a job which requires me to make sweeping generalisations about people on the basis of the flimsiest of evidence, a trait that can creep into other aspects of my life as well!).

    I tend to be a bit bigger and heavier than most fell runners I think (13+ stone) so I think for me the degree to which a shoe gives me traction and 'hold', especially through the heel on descents, becomes more important because I'm probably putting more stress and pressure through the sole. it's all fascinatingly nerdy stuff anyway and has given me the excuse of buying three pairs of new shoes so far this year, so every cloud etc.

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    Fair enough - I'll let you off then

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    Cheaper than Mudclaw, but more expensive than MoreMile Cheviot II, I've been happy with my Mountain Bear Ground Control.
    I got mine for 25 a pair at Running Bear in Alderley Edge as a special offer with a charity race entry. At that price it was a no-brainer
    http://www.runningbear.co.uk/shoes/o...round-control/
    Usually around 50

    I keep my Mudclaws for races and serious recces and are lasting well
    I never wear my x-talons these days
    I eventually binned my MoreMiles as I couldn't repair the uppers anymore, but the lugs were still deep and fresh
    Best Wishes

    David
    Cheshire Hash House Harriers http://www.cheshirehash.co.uk/cheshire/

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    Were this place ..Alderley edge...those shoes sound good an obstacle racer friend says them innov8s keep changing cos they is always faulty don't last and fall to bits..made in china rubbish ..

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    I've had my old Mudclaw 272 for about 6 years now. I only use them for winter running & they have been bullet proof. Just getting a bit tired around the edges now, but possibly the best shoe I've had for the boggy stuff. I have some new red/blue ones on standby for when they finally fall apart.

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