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    Happy Brexit Day everyone.

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    Here's a nice song to celebrate with.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2zJ8vaB5jo

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    A long time coming but well worth it.

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    Sitting here in the Millennium stadium surrounded by Italian brothers. No difference in the love and mutual respect. Forza Italia! As long as Wales win!!😂

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    Wonder if the UK will follow sensible EU laws like this. Or will it be a case of:
    "if it is an EU law then by default it is bad".

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...es-and-tablets

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry View Post
    Wonder if the UK will follow sensible EU laws like this. Or will it be a case of:
    "if it is an EU law then by default it is bad".

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...es-and-tablets
    Sensible? It is a ridiculous intrusion way beyond the remit of the EU, which now wants to interfere in every corner of life.

    At at time it should be taking subsidiarity seriously, and descoping its remit to a budget, and of limiting to only those activities essential to do at multiple country level it is interfering even more.

    So you can have either cheap, or you can have repairable, that is a customer choice.
    The manufacturing processes that make cheap also make things not economically repairable.

    If products last forever, companies all go bust.
    So the long term economics case is also dire...

    The EU is world class at one thing only. Wasting money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    Sensible? It is a ridiculous intrusion way beyond the remit of the EU, which now wants to interfere in every corner of life.

    At at time it should be taking subsidiarity seriously, and descoping its remit to a budget, and of limiting to only those activities essential to do at multiple country level it is interfering even more.

    So you can have either cheap, or you can have repairable, that is a customer choice.
    The manufacturing processes that make cheap also make things not economically repairable.

    If products last forever, companies all go bust.
    So the long term economics case is also dire...

    The EU is world class at one thing only. Wasting money.
    It's also fair to say that particularly with technology, it moves on. Who can work on a 1990s PC with one the pre Pentium chips?
    How can a manufacturer future proof a new device when they can't foresee what technology will be available or required going forward?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    If products last forever, companies all go bust.
    So the long term economics case is also dire...
    This is a fundamental flaw in the economic system: the system is set up to rely on the generation of waste, and yet the build-up of waste is one of the biggest environmental problems faced by the world today.

    https://learn.tearfund.org/en/resour...cular_economy/

    https://learn.tearfund.org/~/media/f...e-en.pdf?la=en
    As someone said, anybody who thinks that growth can continue indefinitely on a finite planet is either an idiot or an economist.

    So I support the EU in their rather small efforts to alleviate the problem. Things need to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonykay View Post
    As someone said, anybody who thinks that growth can continue indefinitely on a finite planet is either an idiot or an economist.
    And this is the crux of the whole problem in the UK... growing population in a limited space, insufficient infrastructure, (arguably) an impending climate crisis...… yet all policy appears to revolve around growing the economy.

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    How many phones have I dumped becasue of failing batteries? It is just not worth the cost of installing a new one, which would have be done by an unauthorised shop anyway.

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