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    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post
    We can import chicken now from the USA. We already have loads come in from Thailand.

    But what the EU have in place are high tariff barriers on agricultural products which forces up the prices of imports from areas with no specific trade agreements.

    So don't think this is about standards. It isn't. It's about maintaining a high price mainly to support the EU mainland producers in Southern Europe.

    It's a strategic decision. A political decision.

    Then, due to shortages, sometimes seasonal, the EU has made some deals where some countries have Tariff Rate Quotas.
    So (for example) if chicken is 40% duty, a country like Thailand has a TRQ of say 500,000 tons that is allowed to come in tariff free.

    That limits the total quantity that comes in from outside the EU, as once that TRQ is reached, no more can come in because the higher tariff kicks in and it isn't commercially viable.

    So back to the Thailand chicken.

    Typically Thai chicken is not reared to EU standards. It is the specific suppliers that supply the EU that specialise in rearing their chicken and so apply the EU standards to the production process. Importers will have full time QC in those facilities to check the animals are reared ethically, the staff are treated ethically and there will be also be a rigorous quality checking.

    That could have happened in the USA had we any arrangements in place. The US producers do not have an arrangement to supply the EU, so they rear their chicken to the standards of the markets they supply. Had there been an arrangement to supply the EU I'm sure some US producers would have considered whether it was viable to produce to EU standards in their facilities and aim at the EU market.

    A trade agreement with the US doesn't mean that the UK has to accept the US standards or vice-versa, although it may agree some aspects of mutual recognition in some sectors.
    Thanks for that Witton. So when we get out of the EU we'll be able to buy cheaper chickens from the US by applying our own standards rather than the EU's? Sounds like a positive first step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stolly View Post
    So at least in WP’s view, a hard Brexit or no deal won’t be a problem for us as far as farming and food go. Phew thank god for that 😅
    I must have missed where I said that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CL View Post
    Thanks for that Witton. So when we get out of the EU we'll be able to buy cheaper chickens from the US by applying our own standards rather than the EU's? Sounds like a positive first step.
    That would be a decision for the UK Government.

    The one we would elect.

    That for me is one of the more positive aspects of Brexit that our Government will be directly accountable to the UK electorate again.
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    that our Government will be directly accountable to the UK electorate again.
    and it wasn't before how, exactly?
    ....it's all downhill from here.

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    So, in just over 30 hours, the shroud () of mystery over whether we leave or not might well be lifted.
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    Yikes don’t tempt Oracle in disgorging his cod science on this thread as well 😂😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichA View Post
    Yikes don’t tempt Oracle in disgorging his cod science on this thread as well ����
    It it much too late for that.

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    Ha ha true

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichA View Post
    Yikes don’t tempt Oracle in disgorging his cod science on this thread as well ����
    It sounds like a load of Pollocks to me...

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    Indeed - no plaice for that on here...

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