Quote Originally Posted by noel View Post
Good point CL, I wouldn't. The difference is that remain is a very clearly defined option. Whereas leave means different things to different people. There are many leave voters who want to still have free trade with Europe, and many who don't.

On your point to the Grump, there are lots of business people making many good points about why a no-deal Brexit is a bad thing. Maybe the politicians are listening to them.
If the politicians are listening to some business concerns then they should relay those in a reasonable manner. But as 'The Grump' says they don't. No reasons, no explanations just 'we can't leave it'll be terrrrible.'


That's why Remain loses the debate. It doesn't reveal it's true motives for wanting to remain,it just scaremongs. The referendum question was clear but of course Noel you being on the losing side wants to justify it with the implication 'you didn't know what you were voting for.'