Brexit

[Oracle]

Its not so much about a middle way as understanding the voters.

Corbyn is a nauseous intellectual halfwit who has never done a hard days work and has no idea how the working class think in his phony class war. I think he has a grudge about the fact he is a failure. Given all the opportunities as a public schoolboy and muffed them.

The working class want a leg up, not a hand out. They are aspirational, they want to be wealthy, not to disband the wealthy. Blair understood it, so did Maggie.

They want jobs to be awarded on merit, not because of who you are, so Corbyns nepotism in Labour, giving jobs to his mates is also anathema.

The northerners are very carefule with money, they hate waste, and their reaction to corbyns unfettered spending splurge is of horror not excitement. Wheres the money come from? They know they will end up paying.

They are patriotic, they hate his insults to the queen.
They want security and so reliable armed forces.

They see corbyns consorting with terrorists as objectionable.
It never was anything to do with peace making, and all to do with his obsession against empire.

They resent spongers, they dont want to be spongers.

Corbyn has no idea what real people outside his metropolitan marxist comic books think.

And so on.

As Alan Johnson said on BBC, about Lansman,who is another public schoolboy champagne socialist millionaire, "the working classes always did disappoint Jon": and told him to "go take your cult and student politics" and bin it.

Blair respected aspiration. Corbyn hates it, and thinks the working class should hate it.

Tony Blair, I never did take to the slimy git but he was the first labour PM that I remember not messing up the whole country, he definitely understood a middle way that was not based on envy. I felt he was the first to embrace modern media for his needs and stay ahead of the game - he and his cronies invented spin.
Other than the unfortunate war mishap he should be remembered as the best labour PM.

[Dave_Mole]

so, here's a multi-property owning, six-figure tax payper who has moved his assets offshore telling us what the working class want and what they are like.

Thanks

[Daletownrunner]

so, here's a multi-property owning, six-figure tax payper who has moved his assets offshore telling us what the working class want and what they are like.

Thanks

Although for once as Northern working class I do tend to agree with Oracle on his latest post, I’d better go and have a lie down 😊

[neilly]

I never bother commenting on or reading these political threads as I have no interest in the views of a few egocentrics. However I have never heard such condescending. patronising rubbish as this. To purport to know what a whole geographic region thinks and believes is incredible. I neither know nor care who you are but, honestly. I've never read such tosh as this. Next thing you'll be telling me that all Scots are canny misers or some other sweeping generalisation.

[Stagger]

Slightly stereotypical by Oracle but generally correct for the majority.

Think your being over sensitive and over critical neilly.

It good to have different opinions though and I take it you don't care of Oracle's views.

[neilly]

Slightly stereotypical by Oracle but generally correct for the majority.

Think your being over sensitive and over critical neilly.

It good to have different opinions though and I take it you don't care of Oracle's views.

My problem is with the comments about 'Northerners'. I can't think of another way to describe it other than sweeping generalisation.

[Dave_Mole]

the comments about 'Northerners'

I think he meant "Yorkshiremen"

[Daletownrunner]

My problem is with the comments about 'Northerners'. I can't think of another way to describe it other than sweeping generalisation.

I think most true working class northerners are sick to death of being told how we should vote by a bunch of fake working class lefties who couldn’t knock a nail in straight and couldn’t cut a straight line in a lump of 50 by 6 mild still angle

[Graham Breeze]

30th October 2019

I suggest we now all agree that the best outcome from the forthcoming election is a thumping majority for Boris and chums, the annihilation of all the loony parties: labour, liberals, SNP and worse and then we can all live happily ever after in tranquillity, harmony and comfort only having to worry about which shoes are the best for the Three Peaks Race.

OK I underestimated the support for the SNP.

[Dave_Mole]

so which shoes are best for the Three Peaks? Something with a waffle tread?