I can’t be bothered to read the oracles rants but, from a quick skim, he is talking pure bollocks 😊
I can’t be bothered to read the oracles rants but, from a quick skim, he is talking pure bollocks 😊
Ok, if that is so it would help the discussion for you to succinctly identify the bollocky bits. So far, name calling and blank refutation seem to be the weapons of choice.
I really want to know if Oracle is spouting bollocks....because if he isn't, we have cause for concern.
Simon Blease
Monmouth
I agree with you Witton.
I was just pointing at what remainers often call a lie...
As I said, remainers exaggeration was so overstated (factors of 10!) that the electorate discounted the claims completely.
The irony is, If they had been more realistic they might have swung the vote.
Where the so called "leavers lies" have been proven true...
Richard Taylor
"William Tell could take an apple off your head. Taylor could take out a processed pea."
Sid Waddell
Why only a second referendum will solve things - The Times https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...26f29db582c1ba
Ok. Seems a well reasoned argument although I take issue with the assertion that the referendum question was "hopelessly vague". It was anything but. Leave or remain. Nowt vague at all. Of course, the future course of politics AFTER a leave vote were genuinely unknowable. Anyone who claims to have known were spinning fairy tales.
But yes. Let's have a vote. But agree that only a meaningful majority can overturn the first result. No one wants another 51/49!
She is living in a dream world, there is no coming back from this. What would happen if the treshold was set at 60% to overturn the first result and the vote remain was 53% It would be a very strange mandate to move forward with.
It will probably just have to go ahead and see what happens.
At least I can take great joy in the DUP own-goal.
Noted you could find not a single arguable point in my post.
Second referendum Solves nothing.
If the first referendum and election manifestos are not honoured, then a second one has no legitimacy.
And you “can’t keep voting again and again“
Ask speaker Bercow who said it. He won’t even allow a first vote on the most important vote parliament has held for a decade for fear his side will lose it, let alone a second,
So our answer to the EU on whether we accept, is “don’t know the speaker won’t allow it to vote.” Only wrecking amendments. Does Bercow know how much he has damaged the uk?
That idiot Angela smith agreed with the speaker that Bercows increasingly bent judgement was indeed a fundamental of democracy, then demanded a second referendum in direct contradiction.
Do these mps ever listen to themselves?
Bercow my view now must face criminal charges for malfeasance. I will help fund it.
Never again must one unnacountable man have such power, or be allowed to abuse it.
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I suspect most of you remainers are not interested in what happens in the Eu parliament which is an expensive powerless joke, designed to pretend democracy. Even Juncker mocked it last year, much to verhofstadts annoyance.
There was a lot of ritual anger expressed about Thomas cook collapse, and the damage done to Eu businesses. It was pointed out by brexit party that the only reason uk government could not step into help is EU competition law. So EU reaped what they sowed, Farcical.
Last edited by Oracle; 21-10-2019 at 07:20 PM.