"Open to" voting a certain way isn't the same as actually doing it. Although there has been an increase in reform support among polls that ask the traditional question: if there were an election tomorrow which way would you vote?
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We've seen this talk of redrawing the political landscape before. But they need to get to about 25%. Below that, they're unlikely to get any more seats than UKIP did.
Pretty much sums it up whoever we vote for next.Originally Posted by MattPo
Don't roll with a pig in poo. You get covered in poo and the pig likes it.
I'd vote for old Nige. I'd vote for almost anyone who sounds a bit different and has a slight chance of winning. The current crop of centrists just sound like washed up second hand car salesmen, i still think the nation threw away a good chance with Corb and McDonnell.
Luke Appleyard (Wharfedale)- quick on the dissent
So that just about sums it up. Farage is a second-best if you can't get Corbyn and McDonnell.
In his lifetime he suffered from unreality, as do so many Englishmen.
Jorge Luis Borges
I'd happily stick it in as a protest vote too, though i don't plan to vote in the next GE, i don't think there will be anyone worth voting for. There is unlikely to be anyone who whom i wouldn't be a mere pleb, or "skint little people", as Toby Jones put it in 'Mr Bates Vs The Post Office'.
Beside things like shoe choice for frosty and greasy conditions, it mostly just pales into insignificance anyway.
Luke Appleyard (Wharfedale)- quick on the dissent
MrB and Anthony
A few months back a friend who is local secretary of the Tories asked if I fancied a night with Lee Anderson at the local Golf Club, so I thought go on. Paid my £15 and had a pie and pea supper and spent about 2 1/2 hours as he did his opening 45 minute talk then another 45 minutes or so of questions.
I got stuck in.
I asked how in GB after 13 years with a Tory PM we were at the time facing:
A Mum of young Wakefield kid who'd scuffed his own Quran being hauled before a de facto Sharia Court to plead for his forgiveness.
A teacher from Batley having to go in to hiding with his family.
Net migration of 700,000 a year.
Record High Debt.
Record High Deficit.
Record High Tax.
Record High Public Sector Spending.
Chicks with Dicks.
Sky high energy costs due to 2 decades of poor policy.
Record levels of disability/long term sickness.
Brexit hesitancy.
My list was longer, and I think he could detect how emotional it was for me that our country was going down the pan.
My final point was that in 2017 and 19 this is what we were told we would get had we elected Corbyn, an assessment that I think was fair at the time.
The reaction since then to Oct 7th in certain circles just backs up my previous assessment.
So I'm sorry guys, I never wanted a Corbyn Britain, and I've got one as near as damn it.
Socialism has never worked, it never will, but it is what we have been served up by a Tory Government that should be sued under the trade descriptions act.
The only viable options for me are party like Reform, who on policy are centre right, or the SDP who have some good policies, but little public profile.
I would encourage folk who don't feel they can support Reform to consider the SDP. I'm not convinced there's another party worth voting for at the moment.
Richard Taylor
"William Tell could take an apple off your head. Taylor could take out a processed pea."
Sid Waddell
I think some people on here and beyond would find it amazing that you're berating the current government for being too left wing.
As an outsider, my thoughts on the recent conservative governments are that they have been undone by infighting and incompetence, not by political leaning.
And what did you make of Mr Anderson? Not everyone's cup of tea.
I wouldn't just suggest the current Government. It has been a trend over a decade or more.
My idea of left and right is big state / small state.
We have the biggest state we have ever had since we had modern Governments and it's so big, we cannot even fund it, hence the increasing debt and huge deficits we have been running, all the way back to 2003 by the way.
Can you name a Conservative Policy that has been enacted in the last 5 years?
I can list a string of leftist ones.
On Lee Anderson, I'm not convinced. Quite personable in the environment he was in, went down fairly well. I'd summarise his position as he is in a minority in the commons that even after 2 GEs is still largely Remain, largely woke, largely high tax and spend, and pro Net Zero.
He believes that many of the Tory MPs would be a better fit in the LDems, Labour or Greens.
So then why take the vice chair of the party?
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Richard Taylor
"William Tell could take an apple off your head. Taylor could take out a processed pea."
Sid Waddell
This week Radio 4 has a series of programmes examining why young people are being attracted to far-right political parties. I heard the trailer several times last week, and I heard the title of the series as "The kids are all trite". Now I have looked on the website, and it is actually "The kids are alt right". I still think my version is entirely appropriate to the subject matter.
In his lifetime he suffered from unreality, as do so many Englishmen.
Jorge Luis Borges
Much to my amusement, I've noticed how the persistent politically hectoring BBC (and the other usual suspects, e.g. Channel4, The Guardian, etc.) have increasingly referred to the views commonly held by the majority of the British Public as 'far-right' or 'alt-right'. It must be very galling to the Bollinger Bolsheviks that we common oiks persist in being oblivious to our 'false-consciousness'.
Am Yisrael Chai
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