Farage NEW PM

[Mossdog]

What's the definition of a racist?

1. Racist /ˈreɪ.sɪst/ noun: Anyone who wins an argument against a Champagne Socialist using facts, reason and logic.

[Fellbeast]

Thanks for the instant reminder why I don’t come here anymore

[Witton Park]

Haha this is the fruit loop right wing (which now includes the Conservative Party lock, stock and biscuit barrel) just re-arranging the deck chairs on the titanic

On any poll you care to mention a solid two thirds of the electorate do not support the conservatives and reform combined and the biggest irony of all is that the conservatives are putting all their efforts in going further to the right (if that is even possible) to try and win back voters that they’re losing to reform

Farage is a racist bigot, as is Lee Anderson, and, by the looks of things today, so is the biggest donor to the Conservative Party

Actually Brian as a frequent visitor to your neck of the woods I can quite see how you won't be feeling the same way as vast swathes of the UK.

Higher Ribblesdale and the Yorkshire Dales and up in the Lakes where you spend much of your time hasn't seen it's population swelled by 25%, housebuilding on every patch of green land they can find, schools full, folk having to scrat around outside of their home town to get their kids an education.

Is it right-wing to suggest that net migration to the UK should be moderated? 700k a year has pretty much blown apart previous records.

Is it right-wing to suggest that a man should not be able to just declare himself a woman and be addressed and treated as such by the authorities?

The latest scourge in South-west Blackburn are ninja style bike gangs. Apparently they are drugs couriers. They race around town at high speed on plateless motorbikes, no helmets, just black buffs and/or balaclavas.

It's been going on for around 18 months and no evidence of any actions by the local plods, but they can set up a checkpoint under the motorway on Bolton Rd, pulling over random motorists at 8 in the morning.

A simple risk assessment would suggest that a few under cover plods around Mill Hill/Cherry Tree with some strategically placed Stingers might be a bit more productive.

For now, you are insulated to a large degree. But that won't last forever as the urban areas are getting full up, so watch out for Serco block booking Youth Hostels.

[mr brightside]

Thanks for the instant reminder why I don’t come here anymore

You don't have to condone other people's views, just accept them. Accepting and condoning are two different things. Have the facebook group accepted yet that there is no 'best shoe'?

[Witton Park]

You don't have to condone other people's views, just accept them. Accepting and condoning are two different things. Have the facebook group accepted yet that there is no 'best shoe'?

Maybe just make an effort to understand them. I don't think we have any bad folk on this forum.

[Fellbeast]

Latest polling:

Labour 46%
Conservative 18%
Reform 13%
Liberal 10%
Green 7%
SNP 4%
Other 2%

Lee Anderson going to Reform is a deckchair that’s already fallen off on the titanic

Source: PeoplePolling

[Witton Park]

Latest polling:

Labour 46%
Conservative 18%
Reform 13%
Liberal 10%
Green 7%
SNP 4%
Other 2%

Lee Anderson going to Reform is a deckchair that’s already fallen off on the titanic

Source: PeoplePolling

LAB: 42%
CON: 24%
LDM: 9%
RFM: 8%
GRN: 7%
SNP: 5%

Source also PeoplePolling from March 2023.

So a 62.5% increase over the year. If that trend continues then we are looking at Reform closing in on 20% by year end.
They are consistently now the 3rd party and I expect we will start seeing some polls placing them in 2nd before long; maybe after the May local elections.

What's clear, beyond dispute, is that these polls are not reflecting undecided, which are mostly still disaffected Conservative voters from 2019 and I think some of these will stick with Tory when push comes to shove, but some will zig to Reform and some zag to Labour.

But in what proportions?

[Fellbeast]

Any swing to reform won’t gain them a single seat in parliament though - all they’re guaranteed in an election is the loss of the one seat Lee Anderson has gifted them

On the other hand a potential doomsday awaits the conservatives, all down to their own stupidity in pursuing austerity, brexit, blatant cronyism and corruption, lying and lying and lying again and again, partying and not following their own lockdown rules, purposeful underfunding and weakening of the NHS and other public sector services, the blatant inability to own up to their own mainly anti-Muslim racism, trying to ‘stop the boats’ to prevent immigration of a relatively small number of what are mostly real refugees while, at the same time, allowing legal immigration to fill jobs at huge never before seen levels, trying to create and inflame culture wars at every opportunity instead of doing their job properly and continually leap frogging further and further to the extreme right in order to attract the only voters left that will consider them

Hopefully the conservatives will have wiped themselves out, come the morning after the election when it comes

[MattPo]

Any swing to reform won’t gain them a single seat in parliament though - all they’re guaranteed in an election is the loss of the one seat Lee Anderson has gifted them

On the other hand a potential doomsday awaits the conservatives, all down to their own stupidity in pursuing austerity, brexit, blatant cronyism and corruption, lying and lying and lying again and again, partying and not following their own lockdown rules, purposeful underfunding and weakening of the NHS and other public sector services, the blatant inability to own up to their own mainly anti-Muslim racism, trying to ‘stop the boats’ to prevent immigration of a relatively small number of what are mostly real refugees while, at the same time, allowing legal immigration to fill jobs at huge never before seen levels, trying to create and inflame culture wars at every opportunity instead of doing their job properly and continually leap frogging further and further to the extreme right in order to attract the only voters left that will consider them

Hopefully the conservatives will have wiped themselves out, come the morning after the election when it comes

Well said!

[Witton Park]

Any swing to reform won’t gain them a single seat in parliament though

Maybe, and if they stay in that 10-15% slot I think you are correct.

But up around 20% it becomes a different issue, and I would point you to the LibDems in the noughties.

And combined with a declining Conservative party that also will have an effect not seen before.

I just want to pull you up on one thing.

"anti-muslim racism"

It isn't a race. The most persecuted religion in the world is Christianity at the moment.

Islam has issues to sort out. That small % of people within Islam that are causing problems cannot be dealt with so easily by outsiders.

Criticism of Islam is not racism.