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    Another decption

    Electric cars that is :-

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...te-diesel-cars


    The comments regarding the production of the batteries would also apply to solar power batteries.
    Last edited by JohnK; 26-04-2019 at 09:27 PM.

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    Fascinating! Thanks for finding.

    Think the link you posted is squiffy.
    I think you meant this...
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...te-diesel-cars

    Wonder if it applies to my tesla 14kwh solar battery?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnK View Post
    Electric cars that is :-

    http://https://www.zerohedge.com/new...lUP45vSn9TAhO0

    The comments regarding the production of the batteries would also apply to solar power batteries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    Fascinating! Thanks for finding.

    Think the link you posted is squiffy.
    I think you meant this...
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...te-diesel-cars

    Wonder if it applies to my tesla 14kwh solar battery?
    Yes that's the one Thanks I think you will find all Batteries are detrimental in fact Tesla gets a mention in the article.

    edited link now
    Last edited by JohnK; 26-04-2019 at 09:28 PM.
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    I think we suspected that all along.

    3l diesel turbocharged is still a powerful and clean engine 👍

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    I remember being told in the early days of solar photovoltaics that they took as much energy to manufacture as they generated in their lifetime. That technology has vastly improved, so that solar PV panels can now have an energy payback time as low as 6 months.

    I don't know anything about battery technology, but is it possible that future improvements will allow it to make a genuine contribution to clean energy?
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    A couple of years ago a guy stayed in our B&B, he worked in the development of electric cars, batteries specifically I recall.
    I remember chatting to him and he saying exactly what that report states and we were all kidding ourselves that they were better.
    Perhaps things haven't moved on so fast.

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    My dreams of having a battery powered house might be wide of the mark. Maybe I need a pumped hydroelectric system instead. I'm not sure how that would work for a car though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noel View Post
    My dreams of having a battery powered house might be wide of the mark. Maybe I need a pumped hydroelectric system instead. I'm not sure how that would work for a car though.
    I have a battery + solar powered house for cold hard economic reasons. It gives me a 6 percent return on capital in savings of energy I would struggle to get anywhere else. The government adds a couple of percent that is nice but not essential. It is Good for those with capital sitting idle looking for fixed return, but not for borrowed money. It has also reduced my bills to low, good for frugal or retirement living, and making my self less vulnerable to energy cost rises.

    The green argument is something else, which this certainly questions.
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    Back to horses then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wetherby whaler View Post
    Back to horses then.
    They fart and cause greenhouse gasses
    Don't roll with a pig in poo. You get covered in poo and the pig likes it.

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