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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem View Post
    Regarding salaries which are considered to be excessive, perhaps it's just that there's a shortage of people who have a proven record of being really, really, incompetent and so, if demand outstrips supply, those people are at a premium and this has a knock-on effect for the salaries of people who are just moderately incompetent.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...week-sbklq5jcg

    "Chris Grayling, who as transport secretary awarded a ferry contract to a company with no ships, will take up a £100,000-a-year role advising a leading ports company. Mr Grayling will collect his six-figure salary in return for seven hours of work per week for Hutchison Ports Europe, according to the latest MPsí register of interests. Taxpayers were left with an £83 million bill for ferries that were chartered by Mr Graylingís Department for Transport to bring in supplies in the event of a no-deal Brexit but never used."

    On second thoughts, the idea that there's a shortage of people in this country with a proven record of being really, really, incompetent is surely preposterous.
    As a private company Hutchinson Ports Europe can hire whoever and pay whatever they want. If it turns out to be a bad decision thatís their lookout. The BBC on the other hand is publicly funded. We have to fork out for it whether we like it or not. Thatís the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever View Post
    As a private company Hutchinson Ports Europe can hire whoever and pay whatever they want. If it turns out to be a bad decision that’s their lookout. The BBC on the other hand is publicly funded. We have to fork out for it whether we like it or not. That’s the difference.
    I don't like this sort of patronage though MR.

    It's one thing to join Parliament from a family business and keep your hand in doing a little when duties allow as say a GP or solicitor in your practise, especially as you may have to return full time if the electorate change their mind on you next time round.

    I think it's another being employed as an advisor. Let's be realistic, Grayling is being paid for access to information from decision makers.
    There will be a lot of money in freeports and if Hutchinson can get one or more of their UK ports in there it could be a great move for shareholders.
    It might be a good decision for Hutchinson Ports, but is it for the electorate and Grayling's constituents?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post
    I was surprised to find that this company didn't have any ships. They leased them. A significant portion of the shipping sector works this way. They tender for contracts that would typically be for a year to 3 years and then go and find a ship which they can lease to fulfil the contractual duties.

    Althoiugh often:

    Railway Companies don't own the trains, lococomotives or "trucks", nor the stations nor track.

    Airlines don't own the planes.

    Farmers don't own the combined harvesters.

    Many cars on the roads are now leased

    Most retailers don't own the "shop".

    And then there are franchises...
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    And most utility companies don't produce any gas or electricity, own any distribution network or do anything actually useful as far as I can tell.
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    Seems like High Heffner was right all along. His famous quote "If it flies, floats or f**ks, rent it" now looks like it applies to most things!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigfella View Post
    And most utility companies don't produce any gas or electricity, own any distribution network or do anything actually useful as far as I can tell.
    Well that is the result of Conservative politics.

    When I graced British Gas plc with my expertise and it was one of the greatest companies in the known universe it owned everything as a vertically integrated organisation from "drill bit to burner tip".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post
    I wouldn't dispute that Grayling is an underwhelming politician - but the Oil, Gas and Offshore Wind industry are regularly awarding contracts to shipping companies with no ships.
    Even 'underwhelming politician' is giving him far too much credit! The Seaborne fiasco was about far, far more than whether or not a prospective ferry company owned its own ferries. When it was awarded the £14 million contract, Seaborne Freight had existed for just 8 months, and not only did it not have any ships of any kind (not owned, nor leased, nor borrowed), it had never operated any. None. Ever. The Public Accounts Committee put the wasted cost of the exercise (which related not just to the Seaborne contract) at around £85 million, though some people put the true cost at over £100 million. And there's more to it! This wasn't a normal contract by any stretch of the imagination.

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    Here we go again.

    Llanelli has hit the news as one of the towns facing Coronavirus restrictions. But can the BBC presenters, save for Huw Edwards, pronounce it properly.

    It drives me crazy that they seem to make no effort to pronounce Welsh names properly but with other languages, in addition to correct pronunciation, they even put on the accent!

    Even a half wit can see that Llanelli doesn't begin with a C.
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    The BBC should have equal pay for men and women. All male salaries should be cut to the level being paid to women doing the equivalent job - not the other way round. Rant over but it's my money they are using.

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    They should all have there pay cut.

    The amount of salary pay is ridiculous.

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