Nigel or Boris for PM

[Wheeze]

1. Maybe he wanted to but think of the security!
2. This is a kiss me quick tour. No time for extended fact finding.
3. Cant the local elected representatives tell him all he needs to know?

I know I'm sounding like a BJ apologist....and maybe I am. But at least I feel a bit more encouraged by the style of leadership compared to Maybot.

[Wheeze]

Noel, I'd give it an 8.5!

[PiesAreGood]

I agree Labour has gone very left (on the scale of UK politics). On a scale of Tony Blair being 1 to Lenin being 10, I'd be interested to hear where people think they stand currently.

That scale is of course skewed because Tony Blair was significantly right of centre. : ) In which case I'll agree with around 8.

Interesting charts here:
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2017

scroll down to UK Historical data, the Labour Party aren't too different from Conservative in the late 90s and 2000s.

[Witton Park]

That scale is of course skewed because Tony Blair was significantly right of centre. : ) In which case I'll agree with around 8.

Interesting charts here:
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2017

scroll down to UK Historical data, the Labour Party aren't too different from Conservative in the late 90s and 2000s.

The political compass needs reconfiguring methinks

The idea that Labour who feel the State can solve everything are more Libertarian than the Tories is for the birds.

I can't think of a party less libertarian than Labour at the moment.

[BillJ]

Interesting charts here:
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2017

It is an interesting chart. Of course it depends on a rigorous lack of bias in measurement, but it puts Labour in 2017 on a score of 4 to the Left (the furthest to the left they have been since 1972) and the Conservatives on a score of 8.5 to the Right (almost the furthest to the right they have been in that period).

[Witton Park]

I agree Labour has gone very left (on the scale of UK politics). On a scale of Tony Blair being 1 to Lenin being 10, I'd be interested to hear where people think they stand currently.

I also think the Tories are more right than they've been for a long time. May was already to the right of Cameron, and I think the current cabinet is to the right of May, Major and Hague (I think Major and Hague have recently spoken about this).

I also suggest, as a right-leaning voter yourself, you'd be less likely to regard a movement to the right as being extreme.

I would agree the Tories are more right, but not much more.

They have lost from Cabinet some that I would suggest are in the wrong party such as Greg Clarke who came from 90s SDP like Soubry.

But they are certainly not to the right, as in Thatcherite.

Politics has been dragged to the left in the UK over the last 20+ years. Labour has been moving left, the Tories have been pulled that way as well.

The pendulum is swinging back.

It's the natural re-balancing. It may go that way for a while and then comeback again.

[GeoffB]

1. Maybe he wanted to but think of the security!
2. This is a kiss me quick tour. No time for extended fact finding.
3. Cant the local elected representatives tell him all he needs to know?

I know I'm sounding like a BJ apologist....and maybe I am. But at least I feel a bit more encouraged by the style of leadership compared to Maybot.

Maybot? I didn't have you down as a Guardian reader, Wheeze!

[Wheeze]

I try to keep an open mind Geoff!

[Derby Tup]

Suggest we don’t need another ‘What PM thread?’ and use this instead

[Stagger]

Aye. Fair point DT