Mobeen Azhar take a bow.

[Stagger]

A brilliant honest price of journalism.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/595..._crime_hotspot

I worked there in there 80s and 90s and only live 5 miles away.

I feel sure its the same in a lot of northern towns.

Sad but very true.

[Llani Boy]

A brilliant honest price of journalism.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/595..._crime_hotspot

I worked there in there 80s and 90s and only live 5 miles away.

I feel sure its the same in a lot of northern towns.

Sad but very true.

I saw it too Stagger. You are spot on when you say sad but very true.

The sooner the liberal elite stop pussy footing around, start calling a spade a spade, and deal with these matters without fear or favour the better.

[Stagger]

Aye, but like see on here, the PC brigade will be branding us Racist soon.

That's why I thing Mr Azhar has written the piece brilliantly.

Factual, honest and without prejudice.

[noel]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing Stagger. I agree, a good piece of journalism. I can see the dilemma those communities are in. They don't want to fuel racism, but equally things need talking about.

[Witton Park]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...tols-speaking/
another piece here that's very good. I think it takes Muslims to deal with this. The majority have to deal with the minority and start trusting the British system to help them deal with it.

Both writers talk of "community" and I think there lies the problem. The insular nature where all revolves around a few bods at the top of the pyramid, even to the extent that they use a parallel legal system.