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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mole View Post
    care to provide some evidence of this?
    Yes, no problem.

    This letter to the BMJ from a GP refers to them.

    https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m3872/rr

    There are now close to 30 or so studies demonstrating that having optimal blood levels of 25(OH)-vitamin D (75-150 nmol/L) reduces covid-19 risks: reduced risk of infection; reduced risk of severe disease; reduced risk of dying. Many researchers now regard the evidence as ‘overwhelming’. Despite this, there still will be those who say that we need ‘more research’, but in the meantime, there is little to be lost (vitamin D supplements are inexpensive and have low risk of toxicity) and a huge amount to gain by recommending a decent daily dose of vitamin D3 (say 1-2,000 IU for children and 4-5,000 IU for adults).

    Another letter here listing multiple studies
    https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m3872/rr-5

    This is the Spanish study I previously mentioned where some patients were treated with calcifediol, a form of Vitamin D and others weren't
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7456194/

    This article talks about two US studies
    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...-find-12081132

    Patients with sufficient levels of vitamin D are less likely to experience complications and die from COVID-19, according to a new study in the US, while another has found it also reduces infection rates.

    From the University of Chicago
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0903133007.htm
    Vitamin D deficiency may raise risk of getting COVID-19, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mole View Post
    whereas the effects of taking too much vitamin D are well documented and I've linked to them already, even if you're too lazy to follow them.
    Well I've looked back and I still can't find any studies you've linked to. I can only see that you've listed the potential side effects of taking too much vitamin D but that isn't what I asked, I said recommended doses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post
    Oi! He's my stalker. Go and get one of your own.
    You can have him back now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever View Post
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    ....it's all downhill from here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever View Post
    I can only see that you've listed the potential side effects of taking too much vitamin D but that isn't what I asked, I said recommended doses.
    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever View Post
    .... a big believer in supplements and suggested taking more than the standard dose (25 micrograms I think). He said it was difficult to overdose on Vitamin D and even if you did the side effects were minor.
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    All things considered, a daily vitamin D intake of 1000–4000 IU, or 25–100 micrograms, should be enough to ensure optimal blood levels in most people. 4000 IU is the safe upper limit according to the Institute of Medicine (IOM). Make sure not to take more than that without consulting with a health professional.

    The upper level of harmless intake is set at 4000 IU, or 100 micrograms, per day.
    However, up to 10,000 IU per day has not been shown to cause harm to healthy individuals
    both the NHS and EFSA say Do not take more than 100 micrograms (4,000 IU) of vitamin D a day.
    ....it's all downhill from here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mole View Post
    both the NHS and EFSA say Do not take more than 100 micrograms (4,000 IU) of vitamin D a day.
    Yes, as below.

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever View Post
    Incidentally the NHS recommends not taking more than 100 micrograms per day. Exactly the same as the article I linked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mole View Post
    both the NHS and EFSA say Do not take more than 100 micrograms (4,000 IU) of vitamin D a day.
    The NHS and NICE recommend 10 micrograms.

    I will stick with sunshine and oily fish. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/art...n-d-experiment

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    The NHS and NICE recommend 10 micrograms.

    I will stick with sunshine and oily fish. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/art...n-d-experiment
    Sunshine no good in the UK between October and March, any time that your shadow is longer than you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever View Post
    Yes, as below.
    missing the critical sentence

    The upper level of harmless intake is set at 4000 IU, or 100 micrograms, per day.
    However, up to 10,000 IU per day has not been shown to cause harm to healthy individuals
    it's wonderful that you can have two contradictory opinions, and yet both of them are right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mole View Post
    missing the critical sentence



    it's wonderful that you can have two contradictory opinions, and yet both of them are right.
    It wasn’t expressing an opinion. I said this was what the article I had linked had to say about toxicity. That was a direct quote.

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