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    Quote Originally Posted by Fellbeast View Post
    And while they’re at it potentially spread the disease to others!

    We’re this far in and still people don’t comprehend the very basics - this is as much about not passing covid on as it’s about not catching it,
    Surely, this at least we can all agree on.
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    Nope. Not the case. The number of fit under 45's dying is less than the number of accidental drownings in a year and similar to death rate from flu. So the very basics of this informed by analysis of who died in the first wave is that the older and iller you are, the more risk you are in. Those people need to continue practising protective behaviours. For the rest of the (mainly productive)population let it run free and get passed around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeze View Post
    Nope. Not the case. The number of fit under 45's dying is less than the number of accidental drownings in a year and similar to death rate from flu. So the very basics of this informed by analysis of who died in the first wave is that the older and iller you are, the more risk you are in. Those people need to continue practising protective behaviours. For the rest of the (mainly productive)population let it run free and get passed around.
    And they’ll be able to control who they pass it on to then???? New born babies? Grandparents? Work colleagues? Health workers? Shop employees? What are you talking about? Jesus wept

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    Correct, they wont be able to control it. The responsibility lies with the vulnerable to shield themselves appropriately. The risk to working age healthy others is much the same as influenza. We don't shut down the economy for that. Think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeze View Post
    The risk to working age healthy others is much the same as influenza...
    No. It. Isn’t

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    According to this article in the national geographic it’s between 50 to 100 times more deadly https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nat...an-the-flu/amp

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    I think suppression of the virus only works if you can guarantee that there will be an effective vaccine arriving imminently. But there is no guarantee - we still don't have one for HIV nearly 40 years later. So if we don't get a vaccine for Covid, then a large section of the population will get it eventually (even if many don't realise they've had it.) Lockdown can only delay the inevitable as we have seen with spikes in countries around the world who were originally lauded for seemingly having controlled the virus. Meanwhile economies are wrecked with all that means for people's lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever View Post
    I think suppression of the virus only works if you can guarantee that there will be an effective vaccine arriving imminently. But there is no guarantee - we still don't have one for HIV nearly 40 years later. So if we don't get a vaccine for Covid, then a large section of the population will get it eventually (even if many don't realise they've had it.) Lockdown can only delay the inevitable as we have seen with spikes in countries around the world who were originally lauded for seemingly having controlled the virus. Meanwhile economies are wrecked with all that means for people's lives.
    I take your point but the current position of keeping your distance, wearing masks with remote working where possible is sort of working. Shops are opening, pubs, restaurants and gyms and whatnot. Theres even been a covid secure fell face. With the authorities able to apply the brakes every now and then - local tighter temporary lockdowns as and when required.

    Experimenting with the alternative (and using the population as guinea pigs in that experiment) could lead to getting on for 500,000 deaths! I doubt even Boris could get the electorate to forget that by the next election

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fellbeast View Post
    According to this article in the national geographic it’s between 50 to 100 times more deadly https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nat...an-the-flu/amp
    That study is saying the IFR is 1.46%, which seems to be an outlier. Most studies estimate is to be much lower than that. Last month, the chief scientist of the WHO said it was about 0.6%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever View Post
    That study is saying the IFR is 1.46%, which seems to be an outlier. Most studies estimate is to be much lower than that. Last month, the chief scientist of the WHO said it was about 0.6%.
    But 163,000 deaths so far in the US says you’re wrong. That’s more than 3 times the total deaths in the Vietnam war

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