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    Just listening to the daily Downing Street press conference and I cannot believe the moronic and repetitive questions the so called senior journalists are asking.

    It won't happen, but it would be great if Proff Whitty told them to grow up!
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    Ha ha ha I think a little stronger might be better.
    Certainly be funny.( Look, just F#@ off the lot of you)

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    I kid you not..
    I just read it on twitter (so it must be true)

    New Zealand prime minister Jacinda Ardern confirms Easter Bunny is classed as an “essential worker” but it might be “difficult for the bunny to get everywhere” in current circumstances.

    Tooth fairy also confirmed as an essential worker.

    You could not make it up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    Tooth fairy also confirmed as an essential worker.
    Tooth fairy must be supplied with PPE. Teeth are likely to carry coronavirus for up to 72 hours after falling out of mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonykay View Post
    Tooth fairy must be supplied with PPE. Teeth are likely to carry coronavirus for up to 72 hours after falling out of mouth.
    Ahh so that why our dentist stopped drilling teeth early doors, I’ll let Mrs DTR know she was wondering why at the time.

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    "My personal take on the current situation here is not to try and prevent everyone catching the virus, but to slow the spread up enough to be able to save the highest % of saveable people possible and not be overwhelmed".[/QUOTE]

    Slowing the spread is the problem - it is proving far harder than most experts thought it would be - the idea that we could slow for a bit, ease off for a bit, slow for a bit etc is looking pretty silly.

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    But that is where I disagree.
    The fact is the medics had differing opinions, and they still do. So at the time that decision was taken, it seemed sensible. Boris didn’t take the decision, his respected medical advisors did.

    Even if it proved ill advised in hindsight, it didn’t in advance. It still could be that the formula followed proves to be the minimum death route. Nobody will ever know. So the word silly is at best unfair, at worst unjustified.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike T View Post
    "My personal take on the current situation here is not to try and prevent everyone catching the virus, but to slow the spread up enough to be able to save the highest % of saveable people possible and not be overwhelmed"

    Slowing the spread is the problem - it is proving far harder than most experts thought it would be - the idea that we could slow for a bit, ease off for a bit, slow for a bit etc is looking pretty silly.

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    Will Boris survive??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    But that is where I disagree.
    The fact is the medics had differing opinions, and they still do. So at the time that decision was taken, it seemed sensible. Boris didn’t take the decision, his respected medical advisors did.

    Even if it proved ill advised in hindsight, it didn’t in advance. It still could be that the formula followed proves to be the minimum death route. Nobody will ever know. So the word silly is at best unfair, at worst unjustified.
    I don't think we know what the "closed doors" medical advice was. And I don't think the medics. decided anything. And anyway, as you say, it was not necessarily consistent advice.

    We do know what the medics have been allowed to say (valuing their future careers and funding for their institutions) and we would certainly be right to believe that the key decisions have been political and not primarily medical.

    So a medical view might have been to, say, test/quarantine every traveller into the UK from an early date and then isolate and trace; but at that time that would have been politically unacceptable because the public had not recognised and accepted the potential danger of a disease in far away countries. "Loss of civil liberties..." etc etc

    If with hindsight the economy had then not been trashed and not many people had died compared with Italy and Spain and the USA; then Johnson would have been a hero (and rightly), but, but, but if things had not been as catastrophic as we now see they are then Johnson would have been vilified and etc.

    My brother and family live in Pamplona (Northern Spain) and the city is effectively under martial law. There is no popping out for exercise there but Spaniards who remember living under a dictatorship have accepted loss of freedom in ways that people in the UK have still not - even now.

    The cost per life saved under Covid-19 is far, far higher than the equivalent in normal times. It has been a political decision to spend that money because the public would not like to face the reality of the pragmatic decisions Doctors normally take every minute of the day. And Johnson would like to be re-elected.
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    With respect, you are hearing the advisors each day on TV say what they think.
    You are listening to oxford and imperial disagreeing with each other profoundly. Their models are based on vapour for data, No surprise there for anyone that ever worked in Or with academia , disagreement is SNAFU
    We have the editor of lancet who doesn’t agree with himself. Still he demands to criticise.

    We have the swedes going left, the South Koreans going right , opting to kill their population all later and every shade in between. All of them seemingly taking medical advice.

    The government cannot take contradictory advice, go left and right at the same time,

    Testing needs validation before use. Easy to say. Hard to do. That is not quick, so smartarses can say test everyone, but translating that into policy is a serious problem. The temperature gauges in use at some airports are a chocolate fire guard. Tests cannot validate without sick people! And worse it can be assymptomatic so who do you test?

    The fact is none of them know but all of them want the right to argue against others advice.

    If all the medics agreed Johnson would know which way to go, but they dont!
    So he took a decision, Someone had to, for which he deserves support.








    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Breeze View Post
    I don't think we know what the "closed doors" medical advice was. And I don't think the medics. decided anything. And anyway, as you say, it was not necessarily consistent advice.

    We do know what the medics have been allowed to say (valuing their future careers and funding for their institutions) and we would certainly be right to believe that the key decisions have been political and not primarily medical.

    So a medical view might have been to, say, test/quarantine every traveller into the UK from an early date and then isolate and trace; but at that time that would have been politically unacceptable because the public had not recognised and accepted the potential danger of a disease in far away countries. "Loss of civil liberties..." etc etc

    If with hindsight the economy had then not been trashed and not many people had died compared with Italy and Spain and the USA; then Johnson would have been a hero (and rightly), but, but, but if things had not been as catastrophic as we now see they are then Johnson would have been vilified and etc.

    My brother and family live in Pamplona (Northern Spain) and the city is effectively under martial law. There is no popping out for exercise there but Spaniards who remember living under a dictatorship have accepted loss of freedom in ways that people in the UK have still not - even now.

    The cost per life saved under Covid-19 is far, far higher than the equivalent in normal times. It has been a political decision to spend that money because the public would not like to face the reality of the pragmatic decisions Doctors normally take every minute of the day. And Johnson would like to be re-elected.

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