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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mole View Post

    So yes, go and have a break. And have a good look at yourself, you contemptible piece of slime.
    nice.

    have you considered ignoring him? Me as well come to that. Might be better than venting your spleen.
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    You don’t read do you.

    Some of those phrases make you the contemptible slime.
    Never uttered by me. Nor did I call myself a friend of Boris.
    You just see what you want to see.

    My references to research were proof inter country research cooperation happens without the EU. CERN is further proof. I was defending the trope that EU was Vital to collaborative research. It isn’t.

    Most economists believe the euro is doomed without fiscal integration that can never happen. You are witnessing it with arguments about Eurobonds recovery. You are the odd one out. I don’t read the mail. But I’ve read a lot of serious economic works on the euro and currency failures.

    I don’t know what you do for a living, but stay out of research or analytical occupations. You are not objective.

    Sure schools are different.
    The average age makes them far less vulnerable to covid mortality.
    The number of teachers self isolating in my area caused the schools to shut due to manning levels according to my local authority, are you disagreeing with them?

    You really do have a chip on your shoulder.
    It wouldn’t matter what I said, you would argue and misrepresent it.








    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mole View Post
    not for one moment can you think why and how a school might be different to a factory. Instead you take the opportunity to bash the unions and denigrate teachers. Teachers!

    You stagger around this forum like a drunk on a bus, shouting the last nonsense they read in the Daily Mail:

    “Gordon Brown stole my pension!”
    “The Euro is doomed: we need to leave!”
    “Teachers are just lazy and want to deprive children of their education!”
    “Hitler was a socialist!”
    “The Fourth Reich has been achieved without a shot being fired!”
    “I'm a close personal friend of Boris Johnson!”

    Elbowing your way into other people's conversations with things that have either already been said or are totally irrelevant.

    “My brother-in-law once gave water out at the Great North Run! You know what the problem is with that race? It's too far north! If you want to get people to enter a race it has to be somewhere in Yorkshire!”

    Then, when someone says you need to just sit down and shut up, you go off on one about how no one can argue with you, it's because you're so analytical and took photos of the dark side of the moon, all on the hush-hush, like. You send them DMs telling them to “cool it” and your “debate” winner is accusing people of being directly responsible for the deaths of children in Italy.

    So yes, go and have a break. And have a good look at yourself, you contemptible piece of slime.
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    Bye, then.
    Have a nice rest.

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    So yes, it was all browns fault. He stole my pension.
    The economists I follow were spot on with both. They say the euro will collapse taking EU with it.
    I see nothing funny in my grandkids deprived of education.
    I used the phrase fourth reich
    It wasnt Boris's charm that struck me most.....But what struck me was that he is a thinking man, His observations were clearly erudite.
    Fascist is a word far better applied of an undemocratic authoritarian EU
    Everyone liked the race. It was just too far to get interest in numbers.


    15/04/19:
    Anyway, I am done here.
    26/09/19:
    That is your last insult to me.
    You really are in last chance saloon.
    You should stay out of anything requiring logic, grammar, capitisation of proper nouns or punctuation.
    Or a sense of the ironic.
    Or a sense of humour.
    Or a scrap of humanity.
    ....it's all downhill from here.

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    And where did I say Hitler was socialist?
    Or that Boris is a friend?
    Or that teachers want to deprive kids of education.

    You love mixing fantasy with fact.
    Its what left wing nutters do.
    Go join BLM or momentum, you are well suited to it.

    Meanwhile on the human side, I bought computers for poor kids in lockdown to get the small amount of education on offer.
    So Which one of us cares about humanity?
    You didn’t. Your a socialist, it’s all about spending other people’s money not yours.
    And complaining, complaining complaining,
    You are happy with unions wrecking education,
    You haven’t created any jobs either. I have. I’ve contributed massive amounts of tax.

    It’s precisely because I care about the millions the eU forces into destitution, the damage it does to poor countries, I am so opposed to it. Because I care more about people than where I can mooch on holiday.

    Take your hate somewhere else.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mole View Post
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    26/09/19:


    You should stay out of anything requiring logic, grammar, capitisation of proper nouns or punctuation.
    Or a sense of the ironic.
    Or a sense of humour.
    Or a scrap of humanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
    I have a habit of dissecting tropes such As “ free movement is good” and showing what a disaster they Are. But I don’t expect readers to take it at face value and most of these things are complicated. I am analytical. It’s how I was trained. Do you really mean you disagree but can’t challenge the reasoning?
    Can I ask, politely and sincerely, why free movement is not good? From my rudimentary understanding of capitalism, and from reading Adam Smith, I understand free trade = good. If free trade = good then why doesn't free movement = good?

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    Maybe signs outside supermarkets should bar teachers till they go back to work.
    Whilst refusing to do the things teachers are paid to do: Like go into work or mark homework.
    They are detroying the life chances of poor kids - many dont have computers. So the sop to teachers consciences is a total #fail.
    they are stopping other parents working and earning who are forced to look after kids.
    They are going through the motions delivering an hour video to kids. Not a full time education, whining about their safety.
    So much for caring about the kids,
    Only one word describes it, selfish.

    Words of a true humanist and all-round compassionate chap. Or just the drunk on the bus.


    Now tell me why I should pay any attention to someone who doesn't know the difference between your and you're?
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    ....it's all downhill from here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Can I ask, politely and sincerely, why free movement is not good? From my rudimentary understanding of capitalism, and from reading Adam Smith, I understand free trade = good. If free trade = good then why doesn't free movement = good?
    I’m out of here Marco. I’ve answered the question many times.
    So very brief.

    It has problems both sides. One last time,

    Free movement is denuding the poor countries of many of their young people , many of their professionals, so that the countries chances of rebuilding are destroyed. That leaves poor public services , and ever fewer young people to support ever older, in a demographic timebomb, so impossible budgets. Also no skilled workforce for employers to tap. As a young professional engineer what will you do? Accept half the wage and massive taxes, or move to a country with double the wage and half the taxes? People in many of these states voted to joinEU so they could migrate. It wrecks the home country,

    If exchange rates allowed economies to balance , and states could set stimulus interest rates , and budget deficits, in the end they could rebuild and economics imbalance would redress. There is no way exchange rates would be what they are if countries floated. That would give local producers the ability to compete with established players in other EU countries. The price of German cars would go into orbit seen by many countries.

    But as it is, many states are forced to balance so crippling tax rates and low minimum wage , in order to repay deficit interest. Employers don’t want to go to them because of crippling tax, and lack of skilled workforce, and the euro forces employment and employer migration.

    All currency unions without fiscal integration fail, economic migration is a symptom. Much of Southern Europe has massive youth unemployment.

    We have the opposite problem. 10 percent population increase, and all the problems that follow like accommodation prices. Those who move to U.K. don’t bring houses with them.


    It cannot work.
    In some Eastern European countries people must travel a hundred miles to see a doctor.
    That is not acceptable.

    The doctors, never known for altruism, have moved elsewhere for higher pay. Ask Estonia. The nurse that treated Boris was Portuguese. Needed in Portugal. Probably sending back money to a destitute family in Portugal.

    EU needs to target the idea that living anywhere is equally financially attractive.
    Then after that movement and mixing is a good idea. Mass economic migration is not.
    It hurts both the recipient and leaving state.

    I live in Portugal and I see the damage it does, and most of my UK tenants were migrants from Europe. They all told the same story of despair in home countries. I loved them to bits, but they were a symptom of a problem.
    Until EU imbalance is sorted, free movement is destroying the EU.

    That means total fiscal integration OR abolishing the euro. It is already collapsing under the strain.

    Short sighted people in U.K. only see the benefits in the home country.
    Not the damage it does.

    I care about people.
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    I care about kids.

    When unions, head teachers and left local authorities decided to abuse corona, as did some teachers who selr isolated unnecessarily

    I bought poor kids computers to take what little teaching was on offer.

    Nothing has changed. My parents were teachers who hated the unions conspiring with left local authorities to abuse the system . Many teachers do care. It only takes a few that don’t. Too many heads are commies.

    I live in a bad education area, because it is run by the left.

    I also handed families money who could not work because their teachers were at home not at school.

    Do you ever think of them?
    Did you help them out. That’s a no. The teachers unions dont give a toss.
    Your a socialist, to you this is all a game.
    You support the union wasters.
    And didn’t pay a penny to help.

    Which one of us cares?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mole View Post
    Words of a true humanist and all-round compassionate chap. Or just the drunk on the bus.


    Now tell me why I should pay any attention to someone who doesn't know the difference between your and you're?
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    Too many heads are commies.
    oh my god, you just keep on rolling them out, don't you?

    I live in a bad education area
    You're (note, NOT your) not joking. Your (not you're) punctuation and capitalisation, not to mention your (not you're) grammar are shocking!


    I’m out of here
    Bye!

    Bye!

    Bye!

    Off you trot.

    Riddance!

    Don't forget your cans of Special Brew!

    Try not be be sick on the way out!

    Bye!
    Last edited by Dave_Mole; 04-07-2020 at 07:43 PM.
    ....it's all downhill from here.

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