Coronavirus

[Witton Park]

B&B's and hotels able to open from July 4th if they wish. My regular place will be open that very day... which (all being well) makes for a promising July!

Great news Travs - hope the weather is decent for you.

[Stagger]

Just been on WhatsApp to Turkish friends.

Masks still to be worn outside.
No pools open yet.
No sun loungers.
No bicycle hire.
Very limited restaurants open.
No breakfasts in hotels.
No hotels allowed to open bars.

They have an announcement at the start of July.

Doesn't sound promising this summer.

[Mike T]

59% on this cruise became positive:

https://thorax.bmj.com/content/early...nl-2020-215091

Yet another example of a large group where most caught it - the idea that most will not get it is popular but almost certainly wrong.

[Oracle]

59% on this cruise became positive:

https://thorax.bmj.com/content/early...nl-2020-215091

Yet another example of a large group where most caught it - the idea that most will not get it is popular but almost certainly wrong.

I wonder whether the air conditioning systems in buildings, and cruise liners , are helping to spread it.
If so, forcing people to stay home in tower blocks is part of the problem, not the solution.

There is also a pattern in fish markets and meat processing plants.
Is the cold preserving the virus? The nature of handling passing it on?
Lots unknown.

[Witton Park]

59% on this cruise became positive:

https://thorax.bmj.com/content/early...nl-2020-215091

Yet another example of a large group where most caught it - the idea that most will not get it is popular but almost certainly wrong.

I don't know if I am misunderstanding you Mike, but on the one hand you've posted lots of stuff about not many having it, and then seem to be also pushing stuff about we'll all get it

[Travs]

I wonder whether the air conditioning systems in buildings, and cruise liners , are helping to spread it.
If so, forcing people to stay home in tower blocks is part of the problem, not the solution.

There is also a pattern in fish markets and meat processing plants.
Is the cold preserving the virus? The nature of handling passing it on?
Lots unknown.

I've not yet returned to the office from furlough, but our risk assessment for working from the office basically says... "air con will be switched off, so if you're hot, open a window...."

[Fellbeast]

I don't know if I am misunderstanding you Mike, but on the one hand you've posted lots of stuff about not many having it, and then seem to be also pushing stuff about we'll all get it

It’s not rocket science - because lots of people haven’t yet had the virus, when they’re exposed to it in an enclosed and perhaps poorly socially distanced space (eg a food processing plant, cruise ship etc), lots of people get it 🧐

[Witton Park]

It’s not rocket science - because lots of people haven’t yet had the virus, when they’re exposed to it in an enclosed and perhaps poorly socially distanced space (eg a food processing plant, cruise ship etc), lots of people get it ��

For crying out loud!

"Because lots of people haven't yet had the virus"

yet highlighted is a report suggesting R of 4 up until W/C 23/3 which means lots of people must have had the virus.

It can't be both.

[Fellbeast]

For crying out loud!

"Because lots of people haven't yet had the virus"

yet highlighted is a report suggesting R of 4 up until W/C 23/3 which means lots of people must have had the virus.

It can't be both.

I think it’s your understanding of R that is the problem 😉

[Fellbeast]

Whilst, yeah, R would fall if a large part of the population had already had covid 19, it’s mainly fallen here and around the world due to lockdown stopping people meeting people with the virus in the infection period and social distancing. R can be kept low by active track and tracing as and when hot spots emerge - eg the food processing plant in Germany (which for a short period pushed their R level up to 2.88)