Coronavirus

[Fellbeast]

The governments of those countries you mention are fortunate that the vast majority of their subjects do as they are advised/requested/told to do and if they don't there are and have been consequences.

In this so called United Kingdom we, unfortunately, are not united and have a very large minority of society who are so selfish and self centred that they just ignore the rules and do what they want and what makes it worse is that there no or very few consequences for their behaviour.

This does not just apply to the Covid crisis but many other aspects of life which include litter, graffiti, general yobbish behaviour, aggressive driving, respect for authority/elders etc.....

What this country needs is a short sharp shock but I'm afraid it will never happen as the snowflakes, although in the minority, are making the most noise.

I was with you all the way until you started blaming “snowflakes”. Most of the idiots are I think you’ll find at the other end of the spectrum

[Llani Boy]

I was with you all the way until you started blaming “snowflakes”. Most of the idiots are I think you’ll find at the other end of the spectrum

I agree.
I wasn't blaming snowflakes for being the problem but for being the ones that will prevent the short sharp shock.

[Fellbeast]

This —> https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-covid-control

[Wetherby whaler]

If New Zealand were to open “properly”, in the same way that European countries have to be open due to economy, population movements and geography, Covid would hit them like a runaway train. They are only safe while they isolate. Do they need tourism any more?

[Witton Park]

If New Zealand were to open “properly”, in the same way that European countries have to be open due to economy, population movements and geography, Covid would hit them like a runaway train. They are only safe while they isolate. Do they need tourism any more?

And this month, rugby internationals are going ahead in New Zealand with stadiums at full capacity.

and I wonder how many away supporters are going to be allowed in.

[Witton Park]

I also think that statements like "devastating effects" or "irreparable damage" are not the most appropriate phrases to include in a general declaration.

or those that describe the virus as being allowed to "rip through" the population, or the lies of Govt Ministers when they describe their policy choices as "the only way".

[Mossdog]

Looking at this BBC map https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54373904 (bottom of the page) of the UK, it really doesn't seem credible that all of the 'problem' areas are noth of a line running from tht Wash to the river Severn. I smell a gigantic rat!

No 'hot spots' in the SE or the SW, with all of their dense populations and numerous universities. Do me a favor! There's some statistical manipulations going on here for sure.

Ah Ha! As revealed by thorough investigative journalism https://twitter.com/TheSundayMirror/...899074/photo/1

And will the consequence of impending restrictions be 'watching the people get lairy' ? If so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq-3ZrjNDpg

[Witton Park]

Looking at this BBC map https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54373904 (bottom of the page) of the UK, it really doesn't seem credible that all of the 'problem' areas are noth of a line running from tht Wash to the river Severn. I smell a gigantic rat!

No 'hot spots' in the SE or the SW, with all of their dense populations and numerous universities. Do me a favor! There's some statistical manipulations going on here for sure.

the Exeter area is among the hotspots listed. The Pennsylvania and University MSOA is No7 on the list of English MSOAs.

The top 30 MSOAs account for 10% of the current cases. They represent around 0.4% of the English population and the top 30 are almost all heavily Uni based.
No1 University Park, Lenton Abbey and Jubilee Campus in Nottingham.
No3 Arboretum, Forest and Trent University - also Nottingham.

Nottingham has 6 of the top 20

Whatever your views on "cases" the current increase is hugely driven by students, although I do wonder how many of them are active nfections.

[Wetherby whaler]

By Thursday it will be mid October. Isn’t that the point at which the graph produced by Witless and Unbalanced said that we would be recording at least 50,000 cases a day? Well maybe. Let’s see. (Yes I know they covered their backs by saying it wasn’t a prediction just a model but that was the dog whistle to scare everyone shitless).

[Muddy Retriever]

By Thursday it will be mid October. IsnÂ’t that the point at which the graph produced by Witless and Unbalanced said that we would be recording at least 50,000 cases a day? Well maybe. LetÂ’s see. (Yes I know they covered their backs by saying it wasnÂ’t a prediction just a model but that was the dog whistle to scare everyone shitless).

The 13th is the day in fact. It was worked out from doubling the figures each week from the 3,105 figures from the 15th of September to get to nearly 50,000 by the 13th October. Not a prediction (obviously) but they neglected to give any other figures and the 50,000 was widely reported across the media, just as they’d intended. Let’s see how close they got.