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    All lives matter.

    No discrimination.

    Justice equally for all.

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    I'm sat here today and I feel sick to the stomach.

    What in hell is happening in our country?

    Rioters are allowed to just crack on and the police are largely taking a back seat.

    You say justice equally for all Stagger, but I can't put on a fell race for 50 people on the West Pennine Moors, but 1000's can head in to the cities and vandalise them and attack the police.
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    I see the press are already focusing on the police, the usual c**p of finding one demonstrator to quote who said they saw the police being aggressive and fearing for their lives when they saw the police horses .

    I am becoming seriously concerned that this could all kick off big time in the UK with riots and general civil disorder, unrest at the covid restrictions etc. and whatever anyone does they can simply point the finger and blame someone else (the government) for causing it.

    If all those protestors can carry on as they have, why don't they sod off back to work.
    Don't roll with a pig in poo. You get covered in poo and the pig likes it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molehill View Post

    If all those protestors can carry on as they have, why don't they sod off back to work.
    I thought they all worked for Rent A Mob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Breeze View Post
    I thought they all worked for Rent A Mob.
    I'm joining Rant a mob this evening, I might calm down after food and beer.
    Don't roll with a pig in poo. You get covered in poo and the pig likes it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post

    You say justice equally for all Stagger, but I can't put on a fell race for 50 people on the West Pennine Moors, but 1000's can head in to the cities and vandalise them and attack the police.
    Suggest you call your fell race the "Rossendale Riot". Then it might be allowed.
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    I think Keir Starmer put it very well. The statue should have been removed peacefully some time ago. Its not about erasing history. The written record remains. But as attitudes evolve so must our way of marking decent humans. Slave trading is abhorrent and the guilty slavers (of any colour) should not be commemorated in public places.
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    Some interesting reading from the mainstream media on why 'All lives matter' is missing the point, even though it can be used with the best of intentions. Probably the majority of people think that because they don’t harbour any ill will against black people - they have black friends and colleagues, enjoy the work of black celebrities, are not racist, etc. - so kind of reject or don't recognise the idea of broad, structural racism. Then we see these protests and think they're extreme, that they go too far, etc. and end up in this place of saying "all lives matter", but it serves to undermine, or at least remove the focus, of the Black Lives Matter movement. The house fire analogy in the ITV article is a good one.

    https://www.itv.com/news/channel/202...er-i-say-this/
    https://www.menshealth.com/uk/mental...-matter-wrong/
    https://www.scotsman.com/news/world/...ensive-2873155
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016...l-lives-matter
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...essay-1007896/
    Geoff Clarke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeze View Post
    I think Keir Starmer put it very well. The statue should have been removed peacefully some time ago. Its not about erasing history. The written record remains. But as attitudes evolve so must our way of marking decent humans. Slave trading is abhorrent and the guilty slavers (of any colour) should not be commemorated in public places.
    so why not take the Auschwitz approach and put some text around such a statue explaining the history?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hank View Post
    Some interesting reading from the mainstream media on why 'All lives matter' is missing the point, even though it can be used with the best of intentions. Probably the majority of people think that because they don’t harbour any ill will against black people - they have black friends and colleagues, enjoy the work of black celebrities, are not racist, etc. - so kind of reject or don't recognise the idea of broad, structural racism. Then we see these protests and think they're extreme, that they go too far, etc. and end up in this place of saying "all lives matter", but it serves to undermine, or at least remove the focus, of the Black Lives Matter movement. The house fire analogy in the ITV article is a good one.

    https://www.itv.com/news/channel/202...er-i-say-this/
    https://www.menshealth.com/uk/mental...-matter-wrong/
    https://www.scotsman.com/news/world/...ensive-2873155
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016...l-lives-matter
    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...essay-1007896/
    But then drill down to the real motivations of BLM and you can see they have a hidden agenda and all things are not what they seem.

    https://uk.gofundme.com/f/ukblm-fund

    Black communities are hardest hit by the Coronavirus pandemic. Black people are dying at up to four times the rate of their white counterparts. This is racism. (My bold)

    Read the detail and make your own judgement, but they look like a bunch of nutjobs to me, using race as a front for a wider agenda.
    Richard Taylor
    "William Tell could take an apple off your head. Taylor could take out a processed pea."
    Sid Waddell

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