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    Good to see some of the aggressive efforts have reaped rewards this year.

    Hirschi, Kragh Anderson, Alaphilippe and Carapaz have all got stuck in and been bold.
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    I didn't see that coming.

    Graham - you seem to be the best Tour historian on here. How does that TT sit for you?
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    Graham is the best at everything (well, apart from reggae music and modesty)

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    Well done lad. Tadej Pogacar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post
    I didn't see that coming.

    Graham - you seem to be the best Tour historian on here. How does that TT sit for you?

    Well the Fignon-LeMond turnaround can be attributed to Fignon having a boil and LeMond using a TT bike (arguably illegal) but unless we are told by the Roglic camp it may just be that it is easier to attack than defend.

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    regarded Aru as the "Star Rider" for UAE TEam Emirates but did say "Prodigy Pogacar was one to watch."

    And I am glad for Porte.
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    As my comments on the e-bike thread will suggest, i know precious little about cycling... although i do like to watch the coverage on Eurosport.

    However it seems strange to me that a race which is effectively three weeks of conventional racing, can then have its result turned so wildly on its head by a time-trial. Surely time-trialling is almost a different discipline?

    (awaits an absolute pummeling from the forum cyclists!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Breeze View Post
    Cycling Weekly [/I]regarded Aru as the "Star Rider" for UAE TEam Emirates but did say "Prodigy Pogacar was one to watch."

    And I am glad for Porte.
    Well, Pogacar will never be unwatched again so long as he is astride a bike, also very pleased for Porte able to finally have that podium place.
    Great spectacle on TV, should think all the tdf race directors are wetting themselves with glee and teams are getting their cheque books out for next year.
    I think we needed a decent bit of sport to watch this summer and that race provided it, hope it doesn't all fall apart with "you know what" accusations or positive tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travs View Post
    As my comments on the e-bike thread will suggest, i know precious little about cycling... although i do like to watch the coverage on Eurosport.

    However it seems strange to me that a race which is effectively three weeks of conventional racing, can then have its result turned so wildly on its head by a time-trial. Surely time-trialling is almost a different discipline?

    (awaits an absolute pummeling from the forum cyclists!!)
    And allowed to change bike half way through, I don't pretend to understand it but it makes bloody good tv (when it is good), the scenery is lovely and I enjoy swearing at the prattish spectators.
    Now where's me gin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travs View Post
    As my comments on the e-bike thread will suggest, i know precious little about cycling... although i do like to watch the coverage on Eurosport.

    However it seems strange to me that a race which is effectively three weeks of conventional racing, can then have its result turned so wildly on its head by a time-trial. Surely time-trialling is almost a different discipline?

    (awaits an absolute pummeling from the forum cyclists!!)
    Gently...

    The mix of constituent parts of Grand Tours (Mountain Top Finishes, Time Trials, Sprints) has varied over the centuries and sometimes/often been "designed" to favour a home rider. In his day Anquetil was the world's best TT rider and, surprise surprise, the TdF in his era used to include a lot of TTs. Anquetil won 5 Tours.

    The TdF once used to devote the first week to sprinter's teams - so Mario Cipollini once won four sprint stages on consecutive days - but in recent years the balance has shifted strongly towards the overall winner being a climber and the TT element being minimalised. And the popularity of the "Team Time Trial" has waxed and waned.

    If France suddenly developed the best TT rider in the world you can be sure that the mountains element in a Tour would become minimal and there would be Time Trials every other day!

    With the TdF it is always important to remember Le Tour is not about sport - but money: and desperation to find another French winner.
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