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    [QUOTE=Dave_Mole;668121]
    Quote Originally Posted by Fellbeast View Post

    just trying to undermine BLM, as usual....
    People quite rightly are abhorred and berate Donald Trump for his nasty misogynistic behaviour (even caught on tape).

    Yet BLM and their supporters beatified George Floyd. A career criminal (9x in jail) who broke into the house of a woman with a bunch of his mates and stuck a gun into the stomach of the pregnant black woman, while his mate pistol whipped her into telling them where her money was stashed. All Hail St George and BLM!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mossdog View Post

    People quite rightly are abhorred and berate Donald Trump for his nasty misogynistic behaviour (even caught on tape).

    Yet BLM and their supporters beatified George Floyd. A career criminal (9x in jail) who broke into the house of a woman with a bunch of his mates and stuck a gun into the stomach of the pregnant black woman, while his mate pistol whipped her into telling them where her money was stashed. All Hail St George and BLM!
    Did crime, did the time, was in the process of rebuilding his life in a new city.
    Became a mentor, helped out with a drug rehabilitation programme, helped people find work.

    So yeah, deserved to be killed by police for allegedly passing a fake $20.
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    ....it's all downhill from here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llani Boy View Post

    Yes, That was in France where it would be expected.

    The Premiership jumping on the BLM "taking the knee" bandwagon is in response to USA problem.
    Consequence of Brexit. We don't care what's going on in France any more, we're trying to get closer relations with USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mossdog View Post

    Did crime, did the time, was in the process of rebuilding his life in a new city.
    Became a mentor, helped out with a drug rehabilitation programme, helped people find work.

    So yeah, deserved to be killed by police for allegedly passing a fake $20.
    Yeah and Osama bin Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden loved kittens and as a God-fearing person said nice things to little children and so didn't deserve to be shot and have his body dropped into the India Ocean.
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    [QUOTE=Llani Boy;668117]
    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post
    I'm a Burnley fan. The "taking the knee" puzzled me from the start.


    But why no similar expression of solidarity for the French teacher just trying to do his job?

    That's an easy one WP.

    He was white!
    Just a hunch, but possibly because systemic racism is slightly less of an issue for white people. Football in England has a history of racism that it's actively trying to address, makes a lot of sense that it would align itself to a movement like BLM.

    Do you think that by supporting BLM that the PL is saying there are no other worthy causes in the world? No other injustices? No other victims worthy of honour? Don't be daft.
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    I know... why don't we all dredge up the same tired arguments from all the other threads?

    Get a life

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    [QUOTE=Mossdog;668126]
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mole View Post

    Yeah and Osama bin Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden loved kittens and as a God-fearing person said nice things to little children and so didn't deserve to be shot and have his body dropped into the India Ocean.
    So following your line of thought to it’s ultimate point, it’s perfectly acceptable to murder someone for a minor possible crime today because they committed and we’re convicted of another crime many years before? Once guilty always guilty :roll eyes:

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    Oppression and dominance is an age old problem. The Romans finessed it. The Crusades perpetuated it. Sharia and BLM are kick backs against it. Its a millennial arm wrestle of competing ideologies. Our only hope is for the rule of Law. A compassionate law that does not brutalise the "guilty" but rehabilitates them. That's why I would choose Western law over Sharia. But if the law givers and law enforcers are demonstrably biased, or plain stupid, then we have a problem.
    Yes, Floyd was not a shining beacon of virtue but, as Dave reminds us, he had been dealt with by the law. Slate wiped clean. So his brutal killing by stupid (undertrained) law enforcers should be taken in context of the moment only.
    For the distressing incident in France, had the killer been arrested rather than killed then the full force of the law would have been applied and upheld.
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    [QUOTE=Hank;668127]
    Quote Originally Posted by Llani Boy View Post

    Just a hunch, but possibly because systemic racism is lightly less of an issue for white people. Football in England has a history of racism that it's actively trying to address, makes a lot of sense that it would align itself to a movement like BLM.

    Do you think that by supporting BLM that the PL is saying there are no other worthy causes in the world? No other injustices? No other victims worthy of honour? Don't be daft.
    Hank, the FA and teams being actively against racism is spot-on. It needs to be kicked out. But there's a difference between being against all forms of racism and supporting hard-core Marxism.

    This explains the problem.

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/02...nd-capitalism/

    The link to the BLM manifesto on the BLM website has been removed (!) having already been judiciously tweaked in in the year of the US election (e.g. removing references to doing away with the western nuclear family, etc.) .

    There is this, shocking if true, but maybe of dubious (non -BLM ) source.

    https://blmmanifesto.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travs View Post
    I know... why don't we all dredge up the same tired arguments from all the other threads?

    Get a life
    I know Travs. Problem is we are all trapped in the amber of Covid and so keep going around in stickier and stickier circles!
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