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    Decline the jab

    It is absolutely an individual's right to decline the vaccine. The nation also has a right to protect its citizens. So it's a simple trade off. Decline the jab and have your NHS number revoked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeze View Post
    It is absolutely an individual's right to decline the vaccine. The nation also has a right to protect its citizens. So it's a simple trade off. Decline the jab and have your NHS number revoked.
    Absolutely agree, just had mine.
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    People who say that Covid is a hoax could be offered jobs as hospital porters and cleaners. This would reduce the demand for PPE: if Covid doesn't exist, they don't need any protection from it.
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    From what i can see it's ethnic minorities and people following strict religions that are refusing. I saw a bunch of them getting interviewed a while back; they all spoke with foreign accents not multicultural british accents, and claimed that the jab had a chip in it which tracks you. I'd be interested to know whether there's a movement amongst the hasidic jewish or sikh community to refuse vaccination, seems mostly to be an islam related trend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr brightside View Post
    From what i can see it's ethnic minorities and people following strict religions that are refusing. I saw a bunch of them getting interviewed a while back; they all spoke with foreign accents not multicultural british accents, and claimed that the jab had a chip in it which tracks you. I'd be interested to know whether there's a movement amongst the hasidic jewish or sikh community to refuse vaccination, seems mostly to be an islam related trend.
    There was one do gooder on TV yesterday claiming that one of the reasons for BAME's, or whatever they are being called this week, not taking up the jab is that the information is not available in their language.

    I'm not buying that.

    To what Wheeze says about revoking NHS number I would add stop benefits and then they would be pushing to the front of the jab queue before you could say Jack Robinson!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llani Boy View Post
    There was one do gooder on TV yesterday claiming that one of the reasons for BAME's, or whatever they are being called this week, not taking up the jab is that the information is not available in their language.

    I'm not buying that.

    To what Wheeze says about revoking NHS number I would add stop benefits and then they would be pushing to the front of the jab queue before you could say Jack Robinson!
    Imams are telling their flock not to have it from quite a while back here in East Lancs. That came from a member of their community around October time.
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    Anyone refusing the jab could be reminded of the history of smallpox, a nasty virus that killed 3 out of 10 who caught it. Around 1800 the first vaccine techniques were developed against it and in 1980 the last case of smallpox in the world was recorded.
    The disease eradicated by worldwide vaccination.
    https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/history/history.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by molehill View Post
    Around 1800 the first vaccine techniques were developed against it and in 1980 the last case of smallpox in the world was recorded.
    Would we have to wait another 180 years before we can eradicate covid? Its a long time to work from home!
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    Quote Originally Posted by XRunner View Post
    Would we have to wait another 180 years before we can eradicate covid? Its a long time to work from home!
    I think this virus is with us for the long term, but we will learn to manage it and live with it - without it impacting our lives too much. Vaccines (probably annual, like flue) will be a big part of that. Vaccines work and people refusing them will not help the overall situation to bring down transmission in populations.
    It also isn't all about death rates, which some may quote as being low, it is about keeping patients out of our hospitals so they may treat other illnesses and return to normal. That requires people not catching it in the first place, young and old.
    Like Wheeze I fear the long covid symptoms most, at my age I don't have a year or two to spare sitting at home waiting to get better and worrying about permanent damage to my body.
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    Now then Llani. This is not about being vindictive or judgemental. But if you decline jab you decline the NHS and its duty of care to the population. Therefore your number should be revoked.

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