Decline the jab

[molehill]

I do wonder what the people of those countries must be thinking, can you imagin the uproar in the UK if our jabs were suddenly cancelled now?

[Mossdog]

I do wonder what the people of those countries must be thinking, can you imagin the uproar in the UK if our jabs were suddenly cancelled now?

Sacré bleu!

[Fellbeast]

You can’t help but think that this is a politically based decision and not grounded in science (not dissimilar to many of the bonkers decisions or lack of decisions made by Boris over the past year).

I know that in France for instance there’s higher distrust in the population over the taking of the vaccine (any vaccine) and irony of ironies you can see the French government wanting to come over as ultra considered and cautious on vaccine use so as to somehow double down on ensuring more of the population do get vaccinated in the long run. It’s doing the wrong thing perhaps but with the ultimate goal in mind

Meanwhile I guess a few more French (German and Italian) people might die because of the delay

[Muddy Retriever]

I do wonder what the people of those countries must be thinking, can you imagin the uproar in the UK if our jabs were suddenly cancelled now?

I would be pretty miffed, especially since I am due to have my jab on Saturday.

I suspect AstraZeneca wishes it could tear up it's contract with the EU, given all the nonsense they've had to put up with from the EU and some of the member states. And to think AstraZeneca are supplying their vaccine at cost until the end of the pandemic. Pfizer on the other hand, which seems exempt from any criticism will make billions.

[anthonykay]

I'm sure when Boris goes to India he will offer his mate Narendra some cheap vaccines.

[Llani Boy]

I can't see many pharmaceutical companies opening, expanding or re-locating in the EU any time soon.

[Witton Park]

Its great to see the progress we are making with vaccination. The problem will come when we are just left with the anti-vaxxers. They will represent a significant reservoir of disease which could put us all back to square one. Luckily, The Monster Raving Loony Party has the answer, first aired in their 2008 manifesto.
https://www.loonyparty.com/4912/252/...posed-by-alex/

Interesting now 9 months on there are some interesting stats in the latest UK HSA Surveillance Report (week 49) which in simple terms reflects November(weeks 45-48)

It's hard to make a case that we have to worry about covid vaccination hesitant folk based on the current data.

I'll give you a few of the key points.

98.4% of the adult population now have Covid anti-bodies, which suggests that over 90% of the unvaccinated have anti-bodies.

Only 14.6% of all adult cases were unvaccinated.

35.5% of all cases were in the under 18s.

Only 19.3% of adult deaths were among the unvaccinated.

Further ONS data shows

The number of Covid Patients in UK hospitals recent peak was 9669 on 1/11 and is now at 7339 which is a 24% drop in a month.

The number of Covid admissions to UK hospital recent peak was 1150 on 27/10 and is now at 729 which is a drop of 37% in a month.

The number of Covid patients needing mechanical ventilation in UK hospitals recent peak was 1034 on 4/11 and is now 880 which is a drop of 15% in a month.

Bear in mind these figures aren't coming off one of the high spikes (almost 40k in hospital early Jan) they are coming off a slight pick up in October.

The only covid metric going in the wrong direction at the moment is that of cases, which is driven by politically driven testing of kids in schools.

But that casedemic and the arrival of the new seemingly toothless moronic variant has given this omnishambles of a Government the opportunity to change the media narrative away from their lies, deceptions and quite possibly corruption.

[Wheeze]

Its been the case that the link between infection and hospitalisation/death has been significantly eroded for all of this autumn/early winter peak. How do we know that 98% of population have antibodies? I ain't been tested....so it must a guestimate, surely?

[anthonykay]

Only 14.6% of all adult cases were unvaccinated.

Only 19.3% of adult deaths were among the unvaccinated.

Meaningless statistics, unless you tell us the proportion of the population that is unvaccinated.

But that casedemic and the arrival of the new seemingly toothless moronic variant . . .

We have an anagram specialist

. . . has given this omnishambles of a Government the opportunity to change the media narrative away from their lies, deceptions and quite possibly corruption.

Well, I can't fault that analysis.

[MattPo]

Whatever! We are all doomed!