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    Thanks for the feedback , some really good points made. I do have private health cover through my work and could relatively easily get a referral, get an MRI etc and move on that way and to be fair that is still very much an option. But if I can sort it out by 'bashing on', my chosen way of trying to get over injuries and whatnot since time immemorial, then that's even better. My relationship with the hills, and running in them, is fundamentally quite primal and, like some Japanese soldier still fighting world war 2 30 years after the event on a tiny pacific atoll, I'm drawn to the concept of bashing on

    There's also a recognition that if I go the MRI way my chances of getting to the starting line of the LL100 in July are probably diminished, and with such a fantastic event and the huge huge numbers that try to get into it each year, I'm trying to maximise my chances of getting to that. And yes I'd rather get there as a bruised and battered and just about able to go pony as opposed to only turning up as a supremely trained and beautifully athletic thoroughbred. And yes if I do make it I realise that the actual event itself might very well end up to be a slow motion car crash for me

    There is also a running mentality issue though and, although I run to satisfy lots of things, my main reason for running is to be out in the mountains, wilderness and weather and experiencing it. A year of plugging and chugging away in the hills and just being out there is far more fun to me than spending ages in recovery, recuperation and some sort of high brow training plan before going out again.

    None of this is particularly explainable to be honest, and for sure doesn't stand the test of logic or even common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fellbeast View Post
    Thanks for the feedback , some really good points made. I do have private health cover through my work and could relatively easily get a referral, get an MRI etc and move on that way and to be fair that is still very much an option. But if I can sort it out by 'bashing on', my chosen way of trying to get over injuries and whatnot since time immemorial, then that's even better. My relationship with the hills, and running in them, is fundamentally quite primal and, like some Japanese soldier still fighting world war 2 30 years after the event on a tiny pacific atoll, I'm drawn to the concept of bashing on

    There's also a recognition that if I go the MRI way my chances of getting to the starting line of the LL100 in July are probably diminished, and with such a fantastic event and the huge huge numbers that try to get into it each year, I'm trying to maximise my chances of getting to that. And yes I'd rather get there as bruised and battered and just about able to go pony as opposed to only turning up as a supremely trained and beautifully athletic thoroughbred. And yes if I do make it I realise that the actual event itself might very well end up to be a slow motion car crash for me

    There is also a running mentality issue though and, although I run to satisfy lots of things, my main reason for running is to be out in the mountains, wilderness and weather and experiencing it. A year of plugging and chugging away in the hills and just being out there is far more fun to me than spending ages in recovery, recuperation and some sort of high brow training plan before going out again.

    None of this is particularly explainable to be honest, and for sure doesn't stand the test of logic or even common sense.
    Our brains must me wired the same, as the above made total sense to me

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    I may have missed something here but why not have an MRI scan and then make an informed decision based on the results of that. Simply having a scan doesn't commit you to following an invasive surgery route does it? I had an MRI scan a few months ago just as a precautionary checkup following minor surgery 2 years ago, this was all quite painless and took less than 1hour all in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigfella View Post
    I may have missed something here but why not have an MRI scan and then make an informed decision based on the results of that. Simply having a scan doesn't commit you to following an invasive surgery route does it? I had an MRI scan a few months ago just as a precautionary checkup following minor surgery 2 years ago, this was all quite painless and took less than 1hour all in.
    Like I said if bashing on fails, that's what I'll most likely do. In my experience though it's not really that simple to get an MRI. What with covid and all I'd have to go private and, to do that, I first need a referral from my GP, then clearance from my health insurer, then a consultation with the consultant to whom I've been referred, then an MRI and X-ray, (if that's what's recommended), then a follow up meeting with the consultant and then whatever the consultant might recommend after that. And that's forgetting for the minute the complications caused by covid and visiting hospitals and me even wanting to.

    Also in 2019 I had a very big year of private healthing following a running fall, slipping on sheet ice (during the Grizedale Trail marathon in February) and although I bashed on and finished the race I knew I'd really hurt my lower abdomen, pronging myself on the sawn branch of a small tree, and had in my own view probably given myself some sort of hernia too. To make things even worse about a month later I peed blood after a long run in the hills.

    Anyway long story short that all resulted in two different and really quite long running private health referrals, a shed load of consultations, two MRI's, two lower abdomen ultra sound scans, half a dozen finger up the bum prostate examinations, several blood tests, two cystoscopies (video inspections of the bladder and prostate and yes the camera takes 'route one' up the willy to get there), one prostate biopsy gathering expedition (all clear thank god) and an operation to repair two quite big hernias for which I now have two 6cm really impressive scars. I think I prefer the bashing on option this time round, at least for a while
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    Fair enough.

    Been there with the prostate check, cystoscopies and then several ops to remove offending growth and other abnormalities in the kidney, all via 'route one' so no impressive scars in my case. Recent MRI was to confirm that all was still in order. As far as Covid goes, visiting the hospital seemed safer and less stressful than our fortnightly supermarket shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigfella View Post
    Fair enough.

    Been there with the prostate check, cystoscopies and then several ops to remove offending growth and other abnormalities in the kidney, all via 'route one' so no impressive scars in my case....
    Haha brilliant a fellow cystoscopy vet - I had one with local where I was actually watching the video and one under general. Good times, good times.....

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    I'm very glad I didn't have an MRI scan in 1990. (Not sure if they were invented back then; local hospitals certainly didn't have one.) If I'd seen how precarious my hip socket was towards the side of my pelvis I would never have taken up running, and 19 years later I certainly wouldn't have taken up fell. One really heavy landing on that leg could have snapped the edge of my pelvis and caused the top of my leg to go through the side of my body and under my armpit. Apologies to anyone who was eating when they started reading this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fellbeast View Post
    ...a shed load of consultations, two MRI's, two lower abdomen ultra sound scans, half a dozen finger up the bum prostate examinations, several blood tests, two cystoscopies (video inspections of the bladder and prostate and yes the camera takes 'route one' up the willy to get there), one prostate biopsy gathering expedition (all clear thank god) and an operation to repair two quite big hernias...
    But no irrigation of your colon? I enjoyed mine while thinking that Princess Di and other fashionable Chelsea ladies pleasured themselves with one regularly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Breeze View Post
    But no irrigation of your colon? I enjoyed mine while thinking that Princess Di and other fashionable Chelsea ladies pleasured themselves with one regularly.
    Haha they could’ve thrown that in and I wouldn’t have even noticed. Colon irrigation schmirrigation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fellbeast View Post
    Thanks for the feedback , some really good points made. I do have private health cover through my work and could relatively easily get a referral, get an MRI etc and move on that way and to be fair that is still very much an option. But if I can sort it out by 'bashing on', my chosen way of trying to get over injuries and whatnot since time immemorial, then that's even better. My relationship with the hills, and running in them, is fundamentally quite primal and, like some Japanese soldier still fighting world war 2 30 years after the event on a tiny pacific atoll, I'm drawn to the concept of bashing on

    There's also a recognition that if I go the MRI way my chances of getting to the starting line of the LL100 in July are probably diminished, and with such a fantastic event and the huge huge numbers that try to get into it each year, I'm trying to maximise my chances of getting to that. And yes I'd rather get there as a bruised and battered and just about able to go pony as opposed to only turning up as a supremely trained and beautifully athletic thoroughbred. And yes if I do make it I realise that the actual event itself might very well end up to be a slow motion car crash for me

    There is also a running mentality issue though and, although I run to satisfy lots of things, my main reason for running is to be out in the mountains, wilderness and weather and experiencing it. A year of plugging and chugging away in the hills and just being out there is far more fun to me than spending ages in recovery, recuperation and some sort of high brow training plan before going out again.

    None of this is particularly explainable to be honest, and for sure doesn't stand the test of logic or even common sense.
    It's probably already a slow motion car crash, Stolly, you just don't know it yet. I can see you making all the same mistakes that brought me to my knees on various occasions, but looking at what i'm reading here you're going down with the ship. I don't think there's a lot left to say save for the fact that my own learning has not put me in a ivory tower from which to pontificate, but that it has wasted years of my life.
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