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    Quote Originally Posted by Mossdog View Post

    I guess we all have to tussle with our individual consciences...
    But isn't that simply the human condition?

    We do what we do (cheating, stealing, killing,...)and then justify it, ideally without agonising too much, so we don't feel we are bad people and can sleep soundly at night?

    Which I can because I basically eat only fish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Breeze View Post
    But isn't that simply the human condition?

    We do what we do (cheating, stealing, killing,...)and then justify it, ideally without agonising too much, so we don't feel we are bad people and can sleep soundly at night?

    Which I can because I basically eat only fish.
    Yeah, but then God or the Gods made us that way (imperfect and with an awareness of imperfection and in 'his own image') so it's quite clearly not our fault but His/Her's/Its/Theirs ...

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    The tilling of soil (for growing vegetables) kills more animal organisms than killing animals for food.

    Eating locally sourced meat versus the environmental consequences of a vegan diet if we consider the air miles and amount of plastic etc in a supermarket shop.

    2 points worthy of discussion if we are looking at veganism.

    BTW I do eat meat but am mainly vegetarian. I advocate a seasonal locally produced diet whatever that may provide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Breeze View Post
    I used to live on a hill top and twice homing pigeons decided they would fly no further. I discovered there was an established process using a dedicated carrier to return the birds to their owners, which I used.

    I happened to know someone who raced pigeons. When I next saw him he told me that a homing pigeon that didn't always fly straight home fast was a waste of bird seed and so the owner would prefer not to have to pay the carriage to get the bird back because it would then just be killed.
    One of my charges races pigeons. He spends a lot (£100s) on what you might call pedigree birds but thinks nothing of losing 15 out of 20 in a race in the heat of last summer. I think this is barbaric but to him it is par for the course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteS View Post
    One of my charges races pigeons. He spends a lot (£100s) on what you might call pedigree birds but thinks nothing of losing 15 out of 20 in a race in the heat of last summer. I think this is barbaric but to him it is par for the course.
    Send him up to Teesdale. They'll be on Mossdogs roof!
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    Minimum individual unnecessary deaths for maximum food production suggests we should probably all be eating whales and elephants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark G View Post
    Minimum individual unnecessary deaths for maximum food production suggests we should probably all be eating whales and elephants.
    Lol.

    This highlights how we make judgements based on a range of factors. Similarity to humans is clearly one - most of us who eat pork wouldn't eat chimp. And intelligence seems to be another. Tuna is OK, but not dolphins, or even octopuses (I've heard some people avoid them too).

    And obviously rarity - we don't want to contribute to an extinction event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark G View Post
    Minimum individual unnecessary deaths for maximum food production suggests we should probably all be eating whales and elephants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noel View Post
    Lol.

    This highlights how we make judgements based on a range of factors. Similarity to humans is clearly one - most of us who eat pork wouldn't eat chimp. And intelligence seems to be another. Tuna is OK, but not dolphins, or even octopuses (I've heard some people avoid them too).

    And obviously rarity - we don't want to contribute to an extinction event.
    Yep. It's all emotion.

    So in Australia they eat (I have eaten from) crocodile, ostrich, emu, kangaroo - because most meat looks the same as a steak or in a stew - but not koala bear. Aaaah.

    But if I were starving, say, on a life boat in an ocean I, along with many predecessors, would willingly eat you to stay alive.

    I suppose you wouldn't find many vegans on said lifeboat because they will have been eaten first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Breeze View Post

    I suppose you wouldn't find many vegans on said lifeboat because they will have been eaten first.
    Umm...would eating a vegan count towards one of your '5-A Day'?
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