Winter Ramsay Round...

[Baggins]

Just looking at http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap...1401&A=Y&Z=120 and was wondering how the three options: gully; scary grassy ridge; trod, all relate to one another and just where they are on the above map.

It looks like there is nearly 300m of descent to account for from Stob Coire Bhealach down to the bealach in just half a Km.

Did you mean SE not SW in a previous post?

No SW from the top of the gully, its the only way you can go as its the direction of the ridge at that point.

Here's a photo

[Joe]

Baggins means roughly the route attached.

That's the way I went when I walked there in 1997.

[Bob]

Don't have the 25K map at work and some of the features (like the gully) don't show up well, if at all, on the 50K map that Streetmap use. The route you've marked looks like it goes to the lowest part of the ridge whereas Bill's line is closer to the 'C' of Coire Bhic and the gully NE again.

[Baggins]

Don't have the 25K map at work and some of the features (like the gully) don't show up well, if at all, on the 50K map that Streetmap use. The route you've marked looks like it goes to the lowest part of the ridge whereas Bill's line is closer to the 'C' of Coire Bhic and the gully NE again.

Yes I'd say that's about right Bob

Another view

[DazTheSlug]

Don't have the 25K map at work and some of the features (like the gully) don't show up well, if at all, on the 50K map that Streetmap use.

Bob - surely you know about the Get-a-Map feature on the Ordnance Survey's website - you can view down to 25k on there

[IanDarkpeak]

Baggins means roughly the route attached.

That's the way I went when I walked there in 1997.

We went down the scary ridge after seeing all the snow in the gully, It's now known locally(Dark Peak-Penistone Area) as Spink's ridge after Nicky's Ramsey flyer but seeing as I was supporting that leg and had to go down it I prefer to call ot Sphincter Ridge because believe me i was bricking it!!!!!

Starts from a v small cairn at 207 707

[Bob]

Bob - surely you know about the Get-a-Map feature on the Ordnance Survey's website - you can view down to 25k on there

Yes, I do but senility means I keep forgetting about it

Would it be fair to summarise the three options as:

Ridge - steep and slippy, most direct route
Gully - quick if clear of snow, interesting otherwise
Trod - longest in distance but able to keep a decent speed

[Joe]

Yes - the route I used is a completely different fourth option. We'd camped at the col then climbed Sgurr a' Bhuic in the morning, so just went down from the col. From Bill's photo you can see it gets pretty snowy as well.

Steve Fallon's route
http://www.stevenfallon.co.uk/nevisroute.html
describes going down the ridge.

[ydt]

The gully under the massive rock is the route I used, it is the shortest one and quite easy if free of snow and ice. But then, I would not be climbing those hills if I could not see the grass and bare rock. I admire the bravery of those who attempt the Ramsay in winter.
Yiannis

[Baggins]

Yes, I do but senility means I keep forgetting about it

Would it be fair to summarise the three options as:

Ridge - steep and slippy, most direct route
Gully - quick if clear of snow, interesting otherwise
Trod - longest in distance but able to keep a decent speed

Summer

Ridge - Quickest going anti-clockwise
Gully - Quickest clockwise
Trod - Not worth doing if others are snow free

Winter

Ridge - Winter climbing grade 1/2 (50/60 foot vertical drop below top part)

Gully - Winter climbing grade 1 (70 degree incline so not as serious)

Trod - Quickest if gully is corniced, would not get a winter climbing grade (Looks like large cornices less likley to form here and the top is not as steep as the gully but still fairlly steep slopes below you)