Permissive Paths not on maps

[Joe]

Is anyone else really frustrated by the number of permissive paths on the ground that are missing from OS maps? Often the only way you find them is when you happen to run past one. I've come up with a short list based on the South-west Peak District, anyone want to add to the list? Anywhere in the UK would do, but I've come up with a couple of restrictions:

Paths entirely within access land aren't listed.
Path isn't marked as Permissive Path on the latest OS 1:25,000. (Use the Get-a-map from http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/)
Path must be in a hilly area.

Shutlingsloe: Access from Macc Forest
976711 - 975699
Permissive Path to Access Land from Macc Forest. Stiles continue through to join ROW near Shutlingsloe.

Macc Forest - Lamaload Missing Link
971733 - 971736
Stiles but no path. Joins the two ROW together.

Macc Forest - Lamaload Missing Link?
965734 - 965737?
I think there's a path here also.

Lamaload Reservoir: Reservior Circuit Link Path
973745 - 974745
Singposted path through trees from ROW to the road.

Goyt Valley: Erwood Hall - misc. paths
00.74.
Several paths shown on map are open, plus a couple not marked:
Zig zag path from ROW on stakeside down into Shooters Clough.
Path from car park up onto StakeSide.
Track to Errwood Hall.
Circuit of hill behind Errwood Hall.
From Errwood Hall up valley to "The Street"
Link from this path up to Foxlow Edge
Shooter's Clough Bridge over Foxlow Edge (2nd half not marked)
Link from Erwood Hall to this path.
Path through the Rhododendrons high up above Erwood Hall on the south side of the valley (not on map)

Goyt Valley: The Street
994766-010760
Footpath beside road from the top car park down almost to the bottom car park.

Lyme Park: Open Access
96-82-
Almost all open, lots of paths not marked on the map.

White Nancy: Access from N
939771 - 940773
Popular but unofficial shortcut straight up the side of the wall.

Kerridge Hill: Ridge Path
943764-945755
ROW round the side is unused - path with stiles is along the ridge

The Roaches: Back Tor - Hanging Stone
989651 - 975653
Path shown on map. Follows ridge, going down past the Hanging Stone.

Danebridge: Link Path
965652 - 968652
Path through the woods joins the river path to the ROW to Hangingstone Farm.

[Silly Big Fella]

Several reasons, they may be part of an agri-environment scheme, where the access paths and/or areas may are not shown on the OS map, just on the Natural England website.

This is the case in Wales where permissive access done under the Tir Gofal scheme are not marked on OS maps, because they are only open for the duration of the agri-environment scheme.

Perhaps OS maps are too expensive to be re-surveyed every few years? How long is it between OS maps being updated?

[Joe]

they may be part of an agri-environment scheme, where the access paths and/or areas may are not shown on the OS map, just on the Natural England website.

Got a link to a list?

Perhaps OS maps are too expensive to be re-surveyed every few years? How long is it between OS maps being updated?

I've no idea why they don't get marked, many of the ones I listed have been open for 20 years plus! If we each listed a few ones we knew about and then I compiled them into an easily accessible form then hey presto! Problem solved

There must be hundreds of them, but only hundreds, not thousands.

[Silly Big Fella]

I can only tell you what happens in Wales, but try the Natural England website and do some rootin' around.

The Countryside Council for Wales (CCW) website has a map showing permissive access areas in Wales opened up under the Tir Gofal scheme. Look under the 'Interactive Maps section'.

www.ccw.gov.uk

[A.G]

Perhaps OS maps are too expensive to be re-surveyed every few years? How long is it between OS maps being updated?

I heard that the last time the OS 1:25s were updated was in the 70s or something?! And that the only maps that are relatively up to date were drawn for races and the like.

[GeoffB]

Surely it's up to the local authority to put the ROWs on the map, not the OS.

[dominion]

I heard that the last time the OS 1:25s were updated was in the 70s or something?! And that the only maps that are relatively up to date were drawn for races and the like.

Some of it is being updated because the road I live on is on it, which was only built 8 years ago.

The website shows a bit by me that's never made sense comparing the OS map to the actual ground.

[Highy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudolph Hooker
A path doesn't imply a right of way, and a right of way doesn't imply a path.

It was ever thus.

On the fells that's accepted, but through farmer's fields it's a complete farce when the Right of Way on the map doesn't match up to the stiles and footpath signs. (There's rarely a path on the ground, or black dotted lines on the map).

Around here even the signed footpaths are regularly ploughed up where they go across fields or around the edges. I think the farmer has 2 weeks to re-instate them, but it rarely happens and so the route gets altered.

[Rudolph Hooker]

If a ROW is blocked, ploughed, locked or even overgrown ... report it ... Here

[Joe]

Five more paths I've remembered, so that's 38 I think! I'm not sure about the Taxal Edge one - I'd have gone that way on a training run to check but I'm still down with a cold after two weeks.

Roaches - Forest Wood Alternate Track
SJ985657 - SJ988657
A popular (but not signposted) track descends below the rocky outcrop W of Lud's Church down to the ROW by the river.

Taxal Edge
SJ997788 - SJ997792
Path used on the Whaley Waltz race and I think it's a permissive path.

Chrome Hill
SK076670 - SK064682
Signposted permissive path from road over Chrome Hill, links through to ROW.

Parkhouse Hill Access
SK082669
Short path from ROW to gate onto Access Land

Lyme Park - West Parkgate
SJ949815
Entrance into the park. Open only 8-dusk.