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    Re: Permissive Paths not on ma

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    A path doesn't imply a right of way, and a right of way doesn't imply a path.

    It was ever thus.

    On the fells that's accepted, but through farmer's fields it's a complete farce when the Right of Way on the map doesn't match up to the stiles and footpath signs. (There's rarely a path on the ground, or black dotted lines on the map).
    Around here even the signed footpaths are regularly ploughed up where they go across fields or around the edges. I think the farmer has 2 weeks to re-instate them, but it rarely happens and so the route gets altered.

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    Re: Permissive Paths not on ma

    If a ROW is blocked, ploughed, locked or even overgrown ... report it ... Here

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    Re: Permissive Paths not on ma

    Cheers Rudolph.

    Reported it last time to council's rights of way chap. He didn't seem much bothered about it, so I'll use that link next time it gets ploughed up.

    The local council seem more bothered with closing some footpaths (for our safety ) and opening new wide tracks to allow disabled access (not much fun for running on) than maintaining the existing ones.

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    Re: Permissive Paths not on ma

    A year ago I encountered a footpath blocked off with an arrow pointing right
    and that was the only marker anywhere - managed to find a way round.
    Contacted Wakefield MDC footpath officer, got a reply he would investigate,
    month later footpath was re-opened.

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    Re: Permissive Paths not on ma

    Five more paths I've remembered, so that's 38 I think! I'm not sure about the Taxal Edge one - I'd have gone that way on a training run to check but I'm still down with a cold after two weeks.

    Roaches - Forest Wood Alternate Track
    SJ985657 - SJ988657
    A popular (but not signposted) track descends below the rocky outcrop W of Lud's Church down to the ROW by the river.

    Taxal Edge
    SJ997788 - SJ997792
    Path used on the Whaley Waltz race and I think it's a permissive path.

    Chrome Hill
    SK076670 - SK064682
    Signposted permissive path from road over Chrome Hill, links through to ROW.

    Parkhouse Hill Access
    SK082669
    Short path from ROW to gate onto Access Land

    Lyme Park - West Parkgate
    SJ949815
    Entrance into the park. Open only 8-dusk.

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    Question about Permissive Foothpaths. Can they be limited to time of day?
    According to the OS 25,000 legend the orange dotted line in the image is a permissive path, but is it legal to use that when the park is closed?

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    Anything that still exists as a permissive path, implies its is on private land not included as open access, if that land is closed there is no permissive path.
    A circular route mostly downhill

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    I find it frustrating that access to a local hill is denied for a race.


    SD 672 199 Cartridge Hill on Darwen Moor.


    I came up with a great race route but to connect it I needed to cross Cartridge Hill from north to south. It is an established path, even with stiles linking it to the rights of way, but none of the routes on and off the summit cairn are official paths.


    I did put it to United Utilities who said no. Only other way is to have runners crossing a road early on.
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    Part of West Pennines SSSI ''severly disadvantaged area, unfavourable, recovering''. Even if UU had said yes, NE would be required to say no because of the state of the SSSI. Comes back to organised events, we are an easy target to stop.
    A circular route mostly downhill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post
    I find it frustrating that access to a local hill is denied for a race.


    SD 672 199 Cartridge Hill on Darwen Moor.


    I came up with a great race route but to connect it I needed to cross Cartridge Hill from north to south. It is an established path, even with stiles linking it to the rights of way, but none of the routes on and off the summit cairn are official paths.


    I did put it to United Utilities who said no. Only other way is to have runners crossing a road early on.
    I really don't understand this, I would have have thought the fact that it is a right of way or not would be irrelevant to the decision to allow a race over the top of the hill. Environmental considerations would be of much highter importance

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