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    Re: best fell runner ever ?

    Doesn't Jebb normally suffer with navigational ability rather than running ability on the long stuff???

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    Re: best fell runner ever ?

    Quote Originally Posted by dominion View Post
    Doesn't Jebb normally suffer with navigational ability rather than running ability on the long stuff???
    Sometimes yes although I can think of a few times he's just flattered to deceive when he did go the right way. He does race a lot though, similar to Lloyd when you consider the cycling he does on top which is easy for us to forget. His run at Jura last year shows he CAN run long rough stuff as well as anyone, and with reference to your first point Bryan you can bet the lines he took weren't as good as Rigby's when he got the record so he probably ran a longer course!

    Perhaps we just expect him to win everything and wonder why when he doesn't, but he's just not as consistent as Simon over that type of race. Over everything else he is consistently there or thereabouts, apart from the shorter faster races (borderline A Categories e.g. Dufton & Paddys Pole)
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    Re: best fell runner ever ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TimW View Post
    No one has gone about their running with more ambition than myself but when you get there (not that I've got where these lads have! but my own level like...) believe it or not you are still the same person. No one at work or on the street sees you any differently and it doesn't change you as a person. It's great to 'get there' but worthless if you haven't enjoyed it
    I agree with that 100%, absolutely spot on.
    I have always preferred the longer days out in the hills, that for me is what fell running is all about (obviously this is just my personal opinion and am in no way dissing the shorter races). I take part in plenty of shorter races, but only in the Peak District, if I’m going to travel to Scotland, the Lakes or Wales etc., I need to do at least an hour or two’s running to make it worthwhile.

    This is probably why I’m not familiar with Rob Jebb’s record at shorter races and hence didn’t include him in my current best.

    In my younger days (late 80’s – early 90’s) I could hold my own at cross country particularly over shorter distances up to about 10K, and although I enjoy all types of running it was always big days out in the hills that inspired me (and that includes climbing, walking and mountain biking as well) so I spent most of the rest of my life doing that.

    What the top runners choose to focus on is their decision and none of my business, presumably they do what they enjoy too

    In my opinion to be considered the best ever you need to be the best over the longer stuff as for me that’s fellrunning and what I enjoy the most.
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    Re: best fell runner ever ?

    Quote Originally Posted by dominion View Post
    Doesn't Jebb normally suffer with navigational ability rather than running ability on the long stuff???
    I am fairly sure Rob doesn't look at the Forum but I do wonder what he would think if he did.

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    Re: best fell runner ever ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fury1000 View Post
    I am fairly sure Rob doesn't look at the Forum but I do wonder what he would think if he did.
    No one has said anything derogatory about him (have they?) he'd probably admit his navigating isn't his finest asset, I'm sure it's no worse than lots of fell runners but is more of a problem when you're on your own in front as he so often is. We've given these guys nothing but praise and where we have 'criticised' it's been purely constructive.

    I'm sure (as I said earlier about Ian Holmes) he would laugh at us, thinking haven't you lot got anything better to do! I've had nothing better to do during an enforced week off running but I'll be back in training as of today
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimW View Post
    I just meant I'm sure Holmesy doesn't sit down musing over whether his achievements are better or worse than Kenny's or Billy's. He's probably too modest anyway, is happy to have been the best of his own era and would laugh at us lot talking about it to these lengths!
    You are right. I talked to him tonight and he just laughed and asked me "And is Ali the greatest boxer of all time?"

    He said you just cannot compare different eras and commented in detail about the changes on the Ben terrain which have affected times. However he did say that he wished he could have raced against Kenny Stuart and added that Kenny did a sub 2.12 marathon and there is no fell runner today who can do that.

    We also talked about the British and English Champs. Ian has won 8 English Champ Gold Medals and only one man has won more. Worthy subject for a Profile perhaps?
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    Re: best fell runner ever ?

    A certain Mr I Holmes has just won the Stanbury Splash 14 years on the trot.
    Is this a record?

    HE IS SIMPLY THE BEST.

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    Re: best fell runner ever ?

    Me, one day
    Trying to plod up hills every day slightly faster than the day before

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    Re: best fell runner ever ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurboTom View Post
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    That's the spirit Tom! Good one
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    Re: best fell runner ever ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stagger View Post
    A certain Mr I Holmes has just won the Stanbury Splash 14 years on the trot.
    Is this a record?

    HE IS SIMPLY THE BEST.
    No.

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