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    Quote Originally Posted by Grouse View Post
    Hang on a minute... didn't Britain go to war with China in order to protect the trade in opium?
    Yes and do you know why? Because the authorities of China were preventing the Chinese people from trading freely, which they had no right to do.

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    Trading freely in drugs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grouse View Post
    Trading freely in drugs?
    Yes of course. I recognise any adult's right(legal, not moral) to put in their body what ever they want. I also recognise their right not to force the consequences of that choice onto others.

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    It's not an informed choice though, it is what capitalism is about - it exploits peoples' desperation, like people who drink Coca - cola or eat McDonald's. The people who make it know it's cheap shit and don't give a toss that people are addicted to it. There will always be the layer at the bottom of the pyramid whose only function is to spend money in the direction of the top of the pyramid. That is capitalism. And it's wrong , morally wrong.
    Last edited by Grouse; 26-06-2008 at 06:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grouse View Post
    Hang on a minute... didn't Britain go to war with China in order to protect the trade in opium?
    nope noodles

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    Quote Originally Posted by christopher leigh View Post
    Yes and do you know why? Because the authorities of China were preventing the Chinese people from trading freely, which they had no right to do.
    christopher you know full well the authorities in china have always done what they bloody well want , they still are.

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    Yep pete i understand what your saying about your NI payments for health care, but what your paying for is in fact a private letter or certificate. Its seen as extra to NHS work. But again the UKA card is a valid competition licence for european (EU) countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christopher leigh View Post
    All the misrepresentations of capitalism have come from Leftist socialists. Anyone who wants to know the truth of the socialist vs capitalism argument only have to look to history.

    After the Napoleonic wars around 1815 to the first world war 100 years later, capitalism led to the longest period without a major world war. It wasn't a pure capitalism but they didn't have the controls we have now.
    Sorry but I had to bite, even though its off topic! Christopher I'm much more a capitalist than a socialist but you seem to look at fell running, life and politics in an extraordinarily black and white way.

    To say that the 100 years following the Napoleonic War was a success (down to capitalism ), due to its lack of a singular world war is utter bollocks. I'd say that directly and indirectly capitalism led to all sorts of misery.

    The Irish potato famine cost what 750,000 deaths alone. The industrial revolution did tons of damage too (read Charles Dickens). On top of that without really thinking too hard there were Afghan wars, the opium wars, the Crimean war, the Indian Mutiny, the American Civil War, the Franco-Prussian wars, the Zulu wars, the Boer war.... and so on. I suspect that capitalism was a route cause in much of all that but, there again, had socialists, fascists, communists or any other 'ist' or 'ism' been in the ascendancy it would still have happened one way or the other anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost View Post
    I am a GP and although I rarely post or race I read the forum almost daily and find it incredibly informative and entertaining - some of the posts are funnier than anything on TV. It saddens me when forumites generalise about a particular profession - maybe posters on this thread assume GPs don't fell run but plenty do and I'm sure read the forum as well. It's not that I'm being sensitive, I've heard it all before, and I'm not defending GPs or the NHS it's just that I look forward to reading the forum as a bit of light relief from the day to day grind of dealing with chronic diseases, terminal illness plus the odd emergency to get the pulse racing and because it has a real 'community' feel of like minded people sharing their passion for fell running.
    We all have stories about 'cowboy builders/dodgy plumbers/lazy accountants' but frankly they bore me and unless we want to alienate other members of the community they should be kept well away from 'general fell running issues'.


    For the record.
    1) I take running injuries very seriously in my patients.
    2) Insurance reports/medicals are not paid for by the NHS.
    3) If a report states an examination is required and the doctor does not do this then the doctor has been negligent. By signing the form the doctor is taking responsibiliy for the requirements of the report - that is why there is a charge. If the doctor were to miss the fact that a patient had eg malignant hypertension or a significant heart valve lesion leading to death during an endurance event and the was found to be negligent then he/she could be struck off.

    Indeed.

    It would be illuminating if posters had to declare their occupation before slandering those in others.

    Why some of you guys are probably just estate agents-in addition to Christopher Leigh that is.
    Last edited by end; 27-06-2008 at 02:35 PM.

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    You can't blame the Industrial Revolution for Charles Dickens, and anyway he's not that bad.


    I'm gonna get that cwazy gwouse...

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