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    Bolts on Broad Stand

    I have been asked in my official capacity if BG contenders/support parties are responsible for the recent appearance of bolts on Broad Stand.

    Does anyone know anything about this?

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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    Is this a bad or good thing?
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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    Quote Originally Posted by TurboTom View Post
    Is this a bad or good thing?
    It's a bad thing ToM

    I can see no reason for this at all. I can't imagine any climber doing it either.

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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    Do you know exactly where Morgan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak View Post
    Do you know exactly where Morgan?
    Here Ian

    One below and one above the corner
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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    Quote Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak View Post
    Do you know exactly where Morgan?
    I don't Ian.

    I was contacted by Stephen Reid at Needle Sports who is one of the FRCC guide book editors who simply asked if I knew if a BG party was responsible.

    I'll happily PM you his contract details so you can have a word direct if you want.

    I mentioned I was stsrting a thread to see if I could get any info, so he might appear in person.
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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    Quote Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak View Post
    It's a bad thing ToM

    I can see no reason for this at all. I can't imagine any climber doing it either.
    What exactly has happened to cause this disgust, can you explain it for a novice
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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    Quote Originally Posted by TurboTom View Post
    What exactly has happened to cause this disgust, can you explain it for a novice
    Its damage to a natural feature.

    You have to drill a hole in the rock to fit the bolt.

    It then encourages people who should not be there to attempt, they get scared and then want even better protection, before you know it you have a ladder there instead.

    Its a very selfish act.
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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    Thats not a proper way to do things. It should be challenging not deliberately made a doddle. It just encourages inexperience and needless damage to the fells
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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    Quote Originally Posted by TurboTom View Post
    What exactly has happened to cause this disgust, can you explain it for a novice
    Quote Originally Posted by Baggins View Post
    Here Ian

    One below and one above the corner
    Quote Originally Posted by Baggins View Post
    Its damage to a natural feature.

    You have to drill a hole in the rock to fit the bolt.

    It then encourages people who should not be there to attempt, they get scared and then want even better protection, before you know it you have a ladder there instead.

    Its a very selfish act.
    Thanks Bill for the short answer.

    Bolting was and is a huge issue all over the country Tom to put a bolt on Broad Stand is the mountain equivalent of bolting Flying Buttress at Stanage. there is absolutly no excuse for it. I can't imagine MR teams using it either although I'm happy to be corrected. We carry spare ropes and Stakes as a last resort. Any lakeland teams want to comment?

    This topic will get hot Imagine.

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