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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    Quote Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak View Post
    It is/was exceptable on sport routes on slate/limestone where routes have no natural features but on a classic never.
    Some one feel free to correct me if this has changed.
    Lets not go down that route
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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    Quote Originally Posted by TurboTom View Post
    What exactly has happened to cause this disgust, can you explain it for a novice
    Another way of explaining it is to imagine someone tarmacking the route of a fell race because you might sprain an ankle on the uneven ground.

    I can't imagine the Wasdale MRT putting them in (or at least putting them in such an obvious place) since Broad Stand is one of their accident black spots and they are unlikely to want to encourage yet more people there. (There are bolts on Lakeland crags for purposes other than climbing but they are placed discretely and generally don't have the hanger (the bit you'd attach ropes or karabiners to) left in place.

    The pity is that the real loser in this instance is the rock as in order to remove the bolts more damage will inevitably be done.

    I'm supporting a BG attempt on that leg in a couple of weeks so will check to see what's there.

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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    Another way of explaining it is to imagine someone tarmacking the route of a fell race because you might sprain an ankle on the uneven ground.

    I can't imagine the Wasdale MRT putting them in (or at least putting them in such an obvious place) since Broad Stand is one of their accident black spots and they are unlikely to want to encourage yet more people there. (There are bolts on Lakeland crags for purposes other than climbing but they are placed discretely and generally don't have the hanger (the bit you'd attach ropes or karabiners to) left in place.

    The pity is that the real loser in this instance is the rock as in order to remove the bolts more damage will inevitably be done.

    I'm supporting a BG attempt on that leg in a couple of weeks so will check to see what's there.
    Ah ok
    So if the rock is going to get damaged should they not just leave the bolts in?
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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    Putting the bolts in damages the rock!

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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    Putting the bolts in damages the rock!
    So if the rock has been damaged already why further damage it
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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    Quote Originally Posted by TurboTom View Post
    So if the rock has been damaged already why further damage it
    I didn't say it would only that it might ( though I didn't word it exactly like that) - with care and done by someone who knows what they are doing you'd end up with a small scar. Leaving the bolts in would only send the message that it (putting bolts into Lakeland rock for convenience) was an acceptable thing to do, which it most certainly is not.

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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    I didn't say it would only that it might ( though I didn't word it exactly like that) - with care and done by someone who knows what they are doing you'd end up with a small scar. Leaving the bolts in would only send the message that it (putting bolts into Lakeland rock for convenience) was an acceptable thing to do, which it most certainly is not.
    agreed. Is there no way of melting them or something minimising any effect on the landscape
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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    Its all round strange:
    you would think that anyone with the knowledge and equipment to bolt it would know better.

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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    I Doubt it.
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    Re: Bolts on Broad Stand

    Hammer them out!!! If this is a fell runner/group then it will REALLY piss the climbing community off as this is a BIG no no!!

    There is good info on various Lakeland MR sites on on to rope this rock anyway!!!
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