Quote Originally Posted by john doe View Post
So that is a closed door on any distance event over land managed on our behalf by United Utilities where an unmanded gate is? sweet!
Pay attention you Calderdale Hikers.......
As Mr Grump (who is generally very wise in his postings) has earlier noted, Chris Knox "negotiates" on behalf of the FRA on matters such as access and I have in front of me an "Access Agreement for FRA insured events over UU land" negotiated by Chris.

It seems to me to be a very reasonable document and so I have little sympathy with ill-informed criticism of UU who allow a lot of races to take place over their land.

UU will always have tenant farmers with whom they must have a working relationship every day of every year and then one day a year a bunch of fellrunners run across the land.

You really have to be very dim not to have got the message from Rule 19, etc and even dimmer not to realise that if there were to be a subsequent row between long standing UU tenants and some apparently uncontrollable fellrunners, where the sympathy of UU would lie.

My usual mantra is that if you enter a race you follow the rules of the RO (kit, no EOD, etc) whether you like it or not.

Some runners think they know better. Sometimes there are consequences.