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    alwaysinjured
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunaneto View Post
    I actually didn't take Leckys suggestion to be such a daft idea. I'm not suggesting the FRA should just ditch their document. But as an alternative form of constructive input it's not such a bad way of making a 'suggestion'

    That said, there did seem to be a degree of 'put up or shut up' to it.

    I never even race, but I do marshal for my club events. If we get to a situation where I have to take training to do that, and find myself potentially liable if something goes wrong I'll not continue marshalling.

    All that aside, I think there should be a tiny bit more patience shown to the FRA for getting this sorted. I'm far from convinced that the constant noise and repetition is really adding anything useful let alone constructive.
    You already are liable - and the poor drafting of this document / UKA attitude, makes that considerably worse.

    Wording of such documents takes a lot of time and thought - to rewrite the document in a way that makes sense, as a partership for safety (rather than whipping stick for RO and marshalls as it presently is ), would take days.

    I personally am reluctant to put such effort in , until and if even simple suggestions to remove some of the more absurd wording are taken on board. Clause 4 still renders current courses non compliant and otherwise does not make proper sense. The statement on weather hazards is ridiculous etc...

    It is not just about updating old rules, it is about rewriting them to recognise real world difficulties of RO and marshalls, to prevent "expert witness" testimony that has an alice in wonderland view of what is really possible - at present if you make an inevitable mistake as a marshall , you more or less stand accused of incompetence And failure of duty in a legal proceeding . Is that what you want?

    As those of us who have taken professional safety qualifications know: Proper safety policies are written to balance interests. As much to defend the reasonable actions of those in the chain of command, as to accuse them if they fail to act reasonably. This is "do it our way or else" usurping the proper role of an organiser to act responsibly, when " our way" has been so poorly drafted, it is neither clear nor in some cases possible.

    The process is inevitably halted a week for the karrimor - for such as wynn to spend their time organising there. It would be wholly unreasonable to ignore her concerns and move it on in the meantime.
    Last edited by alwaysinjured; 23-10-2013 at 08:35 AM.

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