Quote Originally Posted by Stick View Post
This is a supposed to be a joke... yes...?

If not...Considering you profess to coach fell running, orienteering and long distance events I thought you'd have progressed to being able to read things for yourself by now.

I'd give up Al. This is the blinkered attitude you're up against. It's just not possible to make those who want to close their eyes and bury their heads listen or see. There's no other word for it but pathetic. Yeah, stick to your 'rules' Lecky. Good luck.
No, it's not supposed to be a joke. I read most of the previous epic thread and, when faced by AI's next set of extremely long posts I gave up.

I have tried to rewrite the rules to suit what I thought would be appropriate and will send them to the FRA when I have had another look so that they can either use or not use them as they see fit.

However, AI has spent so much time writing long and involved posts here, that, if he has the time to do this, why doesn't he just spend this time re-writing the rules as he sees fit and posting them here for the rest of us to criticize?

Some have moved to using the SHR for their insurance. Perhaps people should look at their safety document that has to be signed off a week before the race, available here. Whilst these might appear to be better than the FRA's, they still have some of the same issues.

For example,
It is recommended that each runner is checked around the course in such a manner that if he becomes overdue at a control point the fact is known to race control.
How is this to happen at a typical A Long with no road crossings? You have 200 runners, all of whom set off at the same time. A fast runner passes CP1 and 2 fine, but goes off course on the way to CP3. He loses 30 minutes, but carries on. Rather than being in tenth he is now 150th. What systems that we normally use are going to locate him? CP3 has runners coming through from 60' in to 180' in to the race. Marshals are taking numbers the whole time. When can they communicate back to the Race HQ about who has gone through?

As this is basically impossible on a fell race, why do both sets of rules suggest this?

I would love to see AI's and (particularly) Fellhound's form of Race Safety guidance as it would add considerably to the debate.