Safety Matters

[Lecky]

So, after 1000s more words AI bows out of the debate without producing an alternative document to the FRA's version.

[Derby Tup]

So, after 1000s more words AI bows out of the debate without producing an alternative document to the FRA's version.

Don't worry he'll be back soon enough. He's already had more come-backs than Sinatra and Take That combined. He won't let us down this time

[noel]

Don't worry he'll be back soon enough. He's already had more come-backs than Sinatra and Take That combined. He won't let us down this time

The trick is to post something that he can't resist responding to.

[noel]

It seems clear that AI has come round to the committee's way of thinking. His post stating that he will bow out of the debate seems like an acknowledgement that they have reached a happy middle ground.

[Derby Tup]

It seems clear that AI has come round to the committee's way of thinking. His post stating that he will bow out of the debate seems like an acknowledgement that they have reached a happy middle ground . . .

. . . you've possibly misread his post noel

[alwaysinjured]

It seems clear that AI has come round to the committee's way of thinking. His post stating that he will bow out of the debate seems like an acknowledgement that they have reached a happy middle ground.

Which will be treated with the contempt it deserves.

I have given up on them Noel. And they have come round a little and very slowly to our way of thinking not the reverse.

On that subject please give the credit to the right people in your last post..

The credit regarding removal of musts, and getting documents back under review belongs to such as Andy W and me against massive intransigence of those in power, using almost any means to prevent it. It would have helped us then if you had joined in more forcibly with us on those issues. But then that is the problem. Too many people sat on the sidelines trying to be everyone's friend instead of arguing for what is right.

On current rate of progress, FRA will get there in about 3 years time.
Quote churchill "you can always rely on the americans to do the right thing, but only after they have tried everying else"

They had a choice of three SQEP people (that is SQEP for this task) but what they actually want is someone to agree with them and be dictated to by Graham and ruled over imperiously by Madeleine , to bow and curtsy in the right places, not someone to lead safety in FRA with the responsible experience to do what is needed, and the authority to make sure it happens, which is the job that actually needs doing. For as long as that is the attitude, and people like you sit on the sidelines despite having similar reservations on musts and work in progress. "getting there" will be a very long time if ever.

So, after 1000s more words AI bows out of the debate without producing an alternative document to the FRA's version.

I have produced the framework, offered to present it. Even sent it to a few elsewhere. I have discussed many of the core parts on these threads several times. If you were not reading, more fool you.

Next step is a couple of RO involved to produce sample plans, since my approach is not to impose anything it is to create in conjunction with RO. Different mindset.

But it is not an alternative to FRA documents like for like. A different structure all together.

[Toreador]

The trick is to post something that he can't resist responding to.

and less than half an hour later...

[wharfeego]

I'd rather be out on the fells than reading tiresome posts on this thread

[Swoop]

The trick is to post something that he can't resist responding to.

It seems clear that AI has come round to the committee's way of thinking. His post stating that he will bow out of the debate seems like an acknowledgement that they have reached a happy middle ground.

and less than half an hour later...

Yes, it worked but was probably unnecessary.

[Stolly]

I'm now moving to stop Noel posting on this thread as he causes AI to post.

Join the ban Noel campaign now!